Episode 75 Unlocking Transformation: The Power of Intuition, Change, and Home Energy with Amy Babish

On: Apr 23, 2024

Welcome to another episode of “The Scrumptious Woman”! In this enlightening conversation, I’m joined by the remarkable Amy Babish, a seasoned somatic coach and psychotherapist with over two decades of expertise. We delve into the profound realms of intuition, the power of change, and the transformative energy of our homes.


In this episode, Amy shares her journey of embracing intuition and the pivotal role it played in her personal and professional growth. She emphasises the importance of trusting one’s intuition and offers valuable insights into recognising its signals. Additionally, Amy discusses the liberating notion of allowing oneself to change course, even when it defies societal expectations or personal narratives of endurance.
Amy introduces the concept of “house therapy,” drawing from feng shui principles and wisdom traditions. She elucidates how our homes hold energetic imprints that impact our well-being and goals, highlighting the significance of aligning our living spaces with our aspirations. Through poignant anecdotes and profound reflections, Amy invites listeners to explore the dynamic interplay between personal transformation and environmental harmony.

Key Takeaways:

Embracing Intuition: Amy advocates for embracing and honouring our intuitive wisdom, which often manifests through bodily sensations and emotional responses. By cultivating awareness and attunement to our inner guidance, we can navigate life with clarity and authenticity.
Embracing Change: Contrary to societal pressures of steadfastness, Amy encourages listeners to embrace the fluidity of change and honour their evolving truths. Recognising the courage and wisdom in recalibrating one’s path fosters growth and self-empowerment.
Harnessing Home Energy: Through the lens of house therapy, Amy illuminates the profound influence of our living environments on our personal growth and well-being. By harmonising the energy of our homes with our intentions, we unlock hidden potentials and cultivate supportive spaces for transformation.

Join us on this illuminating journey as we explore the transformative power of intuition, change, and home energy in shaping our lives and nurturing our souls.

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[00:00:00] Juliette Karaman: Welcome to another episode of the scrumptious woman and I have with me look at her all scrumptious with this mob of gorgeous hair. Amy Babish you are an incredible transformational somatic coach and house therapist of over 20 years of experiment expertise that is amazing. A long time. Mentor, facilitator, licensed psychotherapist, credential art therapist.

[00:00:31] Juliette Karaman: I really love that. NLP mindset practitioner. Oh my God. This is like this list is going on and intuitive. You guide global leaders, peace builders, fortune 20 executive, entrepreneurs, and innovators who know their musts. Be more to dissolve intergenerational patterns and build nervous system resilience with the salt of the earth, groundedness, pee in your pants, laughter, and je sais quoi.

[00:01:00] Juliette Karaman: I love this bit. In her social impact business, she curates private coaching groups and retreats with equity based pricing. I love this. You live outside Washington DC on Duke land? Is that how you

[00:01:17] Amy Babish: pronounce it? Yeah it’s, we don’t know all the indigenous words, but Doeg.

[00:01:21] Juliette Karaman: Doeg. Doeg. Doeg land with your Japanese cottage, a core teen, an alpha of alpha partner, and your golden doodle.

[00:01:32] Juliette Karaman: Welcome! That is quite the je ne sais quoi. Little introduction. I love that.

[00:01:39] Amy Babish: I’m so excited to be here and it feels very aligned with our timing of things. And I adore you and I hope that this our episode really lands and resonates with many different kinds of

[00:01:50] Juliette Karaman: people. Me too.

[00:01:52] Juliette Karaman: Ah, I’m so happy you’re here. So that was quite a little mouthful. Just quite a little mouthful. I love the way that’s contradicted. So 20 years you’ve been a psychoanalyst, psychotherapist, and you’ve gone into coaching and healing. And I love how people don’t usually stick with one thing. But it’s like your little breadcrumb.

[00:02:15] Juliette Karaman: Let’s see, a little Hanzo journey, what? where got to where you are now. So why don’t you explain a little bit? What got you to here? How did you get here? What’s, what are the like two, three nuggets in your journey that you wish you would have known when you started?

[00:02:36] Amy Babish: I think that really trusting my intuition would have been the first nugget.

[00:02:42] Amy Babish: Yes. So I started to have conscious awakening when I was nine years old. And I started having my guide show up when I was nine and I didn’t have any conscious family that talked about spirituality, anything other than religion, which not really from a place of the kind of spirituality that you and I probably talk about.

[00:03:03] Amy Babish: And, Also, I come from a line of healers and we didn’t really talk about those things, but it just was like how we lived. And so I think that’s the first one is like really having not suppress that part of myself. And she kept on showing up at different points and like peak experiences, all kinds of things, seeing the unified field when I was 19.

[00:03:23] Amy Babish: So that’s my first one.

[00:03:26] Juliette Karaman: And how would you, I’m going to just ask a question and people are like, okay, go ahead. Everyone talks about intuition and you’re saying like, I wish I had known, I trusted my intuition much earlier. At nine, it already showed up, but it probably showed up much before.

[00:03:42] Juliette Karaman: What are like, say two tips? What are two things that you’re like, this is your intuition speaking?

[00:03:50] Amy Babish: Your intuition is always semantically based. I agree. Some people get it with, clear cognizance. Or, there’s different ways, but learning to listen to your body is the first way to dial in and dial up your intuition.

[00:04:06] Amy Babish: The second way would be learning when you’re actually, which is another somatic tool, is like learning when you’re triggered, because sometimes we have these reactive patterns and we think that’s the truth in our body. But having a sense of what your neutrality is, what your equanimity is. What, like your spaciousness feels like it doesn’t have to be, I feel safe even like I feel, I know when my body is in a neutral place, I think that’s so powerful to really discern intuition and also a lot of people who find more of like the astral work, like through Kundalini and they’re really out of their bodies a lot when we’re in the open field, you We don’t really know if when it’s like our true guides or when it’s something else.

[00:04:50] Amy Babish: Might not have our most highest good in mind. So really learning who you are first, what your body is all about, and then learning like about permission and consent, even with spiritual work is so important with intuition.

[00:05:04] Juliette Karaman: Beautiful. Thank you for clarifying that. And I often say to people, it’s do you know your yes and your no?

[00:05:11] Juliette Karaman: What does that look like in your body? Do you know what that feels like? And they’re like, Oh, I think so. I think, okay let’s figure it out. So I get them to stand up, ask a question, see if they go forwards, backwards. Then once they’ve done that, I’m like, okay let’s try it with muscle testing.

[00:05:27] Juliette Karaman: Now let’s just try it sitting down and ask yourself yes and no questions. And they’re like, wow, this really works. I’m like, that’s it, darling. And just start building that memory because it is a muscle, right? We all have memory that we have this intuition. But we

[00:05:46] Amy Babish: forgot 100%. I teach yes and no work too.

[00:05:49] Amy Babish: And I think, especially for people who are quite successful and use their mind all the time to have achievement to come into their bodies, like they’ve been like punked or on candid camera or something. That’s Like, why didn’t anyone teach this? Like, why don’t we learn this in elementary school?

[00:06:04] Amy Babish: And so I think it’s a

[00:06:07] Juliette Karaman: powerful tool. Beautiful. So intuition.

[00:06:11] Amy Babish: So that’s the first one. And then I think the second one would be it’s okay to change my mind.

[00:06:15] Juliette Karaman: Oh my God, that’s such a good one. All right. We always hear our word is law and yeah, it can be, but not when it’s actually going to change.

[00:06:25] Juliette Karaman: Yeah, be at my own detriment.

[00:06:28] Amy Babish: Like my structure is that I have a lot of endurance. I have a lot of stability. I have a lot of loyalty in me. And so it’s not hard for me. Like I did, like over 313 days live and it really became apparent. Like my wish and my intention was like, Oh, people can see this is what I’m giving away for free.

[00:06:46] Amy Babish: Then it’s going to offer like an inspiration for people to reach out to work with me. And I think that it. Didn’t do that. And so I had this deep awareness of I was actually over giving.

[00:06:58] Juliette Karaman: And

[00:06:59] Amy Babish: when I made the decision to stop the lives before 330 days, it was this huge learning, like huge learning for people in my community because they’re like, Oh, I attract people like me that they can push through, they could do the third 330 days, no problem, but to actually sit with what is aligned for them and what’s true and congruent.

[00:07:17] Amy Babish: It was very humbling for a lot of people to see me pivot from something because they know I can do it all night. I can do it all day. Like this, that’s not hard

[00:07:24] Juliette Karaman: for me. Just because you can, doesn’t mean you have to.

[00:07:28] Amy Babish: As we saw in something you shared yesterday.

[00:07:31] Juliette Karaman: Completely right. And that’s often it’s People like us that have been helping others for years and for decades, we build a certain capacity.

[00:07:42] Juliette Karaman: And especially because we do a lot of embodiment and a lot of somatic work, right? So your capacity just grows and grows and grows so you don’t get as fumbled and it’s not like you go under the waves crashing and you know you tumble over all the time. It’s just like a wave hits and you’re like okay she’s come out pretty quickly.

[00:08:01] Juliette Karaman: It’s oh yeah it’s. It’s pretty shit under here, I can’t laugh. But it doesn’t mean that you have to take on people that will continue to do that into your world. And that’s just the thing where it’s oh, just because I can doesn’t mean we’d have to. And it can just be like, pivot.

[00:08:20] Juliette Karaman: I say it’s okay. It’s okay to pivot. It’s perfectly okay. And as a leader, you’re actually giving people examples. It’s Hey, I tried that. That felt really good for a while. And now that bit is closed. The energetics of that bit are closed. I’m moving away from that. And that’s finished. It’s, I’m not regretting any of that period that I spend like this, but I’ve learned for it and I’ve moved on.

[00:08:45] Amy Babish: 100%. This was a huge lesson for my pivoter from being a trauma and shame and attachment

[00:08:51] Juliette Karaman: therapist. So it

[00:08:54] Amy Babish: was during COVID and just like really learning to, learning about school contracts in a very new and deep way that I had knowledge about it before. But I think understanding that there is a time for completion for things and it doesn’t always align with what everyone feels is correct for

[00:09:11] Juliette Karaman: them.

[00:09:12] Juliette Karaman: I know, it’s annoying that, right?

[00:09:14] Juliette Karaman: Oh, this is a big, this is going to

[00:09:15] Amy Babish: be big medicine. And yeah, just really allowing myself to evolve and to know that this is as far as I could take some people and that my gifts and my capacity would be better served outside of pure psychotherapy was huge for me because I thought I would do that forever.

[00:09:30] Amy Babish: Yeah.

[00:09:31] Juliette Karaman: Yeah. So

[00:09:33] Amy Babish: Many different parts of my journey those nuggets have

[00:09:35] Juliette Karaman: come up. And that’s a big thing, right? Because as a psychotherapist, you have loads of rules and regulatory. bodies and certain things that you can’t, you can do. And in coaching, mentoring, and even hypnotherapy, it’s slightly different.

[00:09:51] Juliette Karaman: And then of course, when you work with the Kashuk records and with all the guides, it’s completely different. So it’s like navigating that. It’s like almost that identity loss. Who are you with not only being a physio, with a psychotherapist, right?

[00:10:08] Amy Babish: And it’s I don’t lose that part of me, but it’s not to have that like forward facing.

[00:10:13] Amy Babish: I would say With all the rules, it’s I felt like I had to wear a potato sack as a psychotherapist and not really show my whole self. People that would meet me in person or come on retreats would see all of me, but in terms of like marketing or how I could talk about my work, it had to be very boundaried.

[00:10:28] Amy Babish: And I don’t want there to be, I want there to be a wholeness to me. I don’t have to overshare, but it’s so important for people to know I’m, I bring all of this to the table, not just the signs and not just the artistry. It’s like all of me is

[00:10:41] Juliette Karaman: coming. And I love that, that, the real authenticity. I know it’s a word that’s been overused a lot, but I really think it is like when leaders show up in their authentic self and their potato sack or their, whatever beautiful thing that they want to wear, but really show all those parts of us.

[00:11:01] Juliette Karaman: And by storytelling and by actually allowing people a little peek into what’s happening in our world, they’re like, Oh God, she’s not a hundred percent perfect. And I can so relate. Oh my God. Yes, that was me too. And you can do humor. You can do it with however you want, but it just shows the world that’s you’re not alone.

[00:11:26] Juliette Karaman: You don’t have to do this alone. Yeah, you’re

[00:11:29] Amy Babish: not a unique snowflake that’s broken or can’t

[00:11:31] Juliette Karaman: be helped. Unique snowflake. Love that.

[00:11:36] Amy Babish: Yeah, a lot of people come to me with this I see, everyone else is getting this, especially around, many people come to me for partnership struggles with either loving the love that they have in or having a healthy and equal partner.

[00:11:47] Amy Babish: It’s all these other people are figuring it out except for me. So what is, tell me what’s really wrong with me.

[00:11:53] Juliette Karaman: Ah, the broken copy. Yes. Yes. Yes.

[00:11:57] Amy Babish: So that unique snowflake feeling, I think, is something that a lot of like high achieving people really carry. Immensely.

[00:12:05] Juliette Karaman: It’s crazy, right?

[00:12:06] Juliette Karaman: Because so often, we’ll see this with high achievers, that they’re doing great and say their business and they’re making multi millions and They think they’ve got it all figured out at home, but they’re actually deeply unhappy, or they’re not getting the sex that they want, or they’re not getting just the intimate beauty of being with that other person, or somehow their kids are failing, or whatever.

[00:12:30] Juliette Karaman: There’s always, there’s a little niggle somewhere. And then it’s oh, it’s because I’m broken. I’m like, you’re pretty, pretty well versed in everything except this one thing. A big leap. It’s a big leap.

[00:12:44] Juliette Karaman: I love that. All right. And number three, you said you had a third one.

[00:12:48] Amy Babish: I think that I think probably it would be around house therapy. So house therapy draws from feng shui and a lot of wisdom traditions. And part of the premise of house therapy is that there’s three kind of locks, which. Many of your people are going to resonate with it.

[00:13:03] Amy Babish: Like we have the heavenly luck, which is like your ancestors, the cosmos, like what’s the weather of your astrology. And then we have the human luck, which is like belief work, shame work, somatic work, like everything that you can have around like shifting yourself. And then we have the earth block.

[00:13:21] Amy Babish: And this is the one that I wish I would have known about like many moons ago. So the earth luck. I was very connected to land for, from like over 15 years, but the Earthluck is about working with the land and even that’s your balcony, if it’s a flower pot, like whatever you have, and then the space that you’re in to empower you.

[00:13:44] Amy Babish: To empower your goals. And it’s oftentimes the missing piece for a lot of people that I see that completely understand their charts, they understand their human design, they’ve got like the belief work down, they’ve done their shame work, and they’re like, why is this one part like really missing? So it’s helped me so much personally and it’s really empowered so many people that I work with to have subtle and massive shifts around the thing that they’ve been working on that oh I thought I had to do more personal work when it’s actually, or get my chart read, or my cards read by someone else, and it’s actually, it’s It’s just in the space and the energy around

[00:14:16] Juliette Karaman: you.

[00:14:17] Juliette Karaman: Isn’t that wonderful? So explain a little bit more about this. So when people hire you for that, do you come into their houses? Do you do it virtually? Do you ask for a map? What, what happens?

[00:14:32] Amy Babish: Yes. Yes. Yes. So I do it both in person and virtually. And like the consent is you send me a blueprint of your home.

[00:14:40] Amy Babish: So if you don’t have one that’s formal, you just hand draw it. And I want to see like everything under the roof line because that’s where all the energy is. So if you have a carport or if you have a porch with a awning, like all of that is included. It’s it’s so instead of this is my body, it’s this is my home.

[00:14:58] Amy Babish: This is this, all this energy is. What we come home to after we go on retreat, what we come home to after a powerful experience. And it’s like, how do I then allow my home, the energy of my home to support me? And if I’m just coming back to the same old, I make it about me like that negative snowflake, unique kind of snowflake kind of way.

[00:15:16] Amy Babish: And it’s actually, it might not be you. It’s that your house is asking to be in a relationship with you around your change and your transformation. Yes. It’s It’s so mind blowing that being in relationship your home like just like being in relationship with your own body or yourself or your beloved Having your home be a family member is life changing for

[00:15:34] Juliette Karaman: people.

[00:15:35] Juliette Karaman: I love this because I used to be an interior decorator. So often when I have clients that kind of just comes into, when I have private VIP clients that work with me for a year, all of a sudden I’ll be visiting their houses and we’re redecorating, we’re redoing rooms. I’m like, hey, this room doesn’t work.

[00:15:55] Juliette Karaman: And I work energetics a lot, but. I’m not as specific as you, but I just know when things do and don’t work. And I’m like, okay, this room needs to be cleared out. We’ve done some stuff. We need to energetically clear it. Have what happened here. Then of course, and then also, but it’s things like, where’s the entrance of your house?

[00:16:14] Juliette Karaman: What kind of clutter do you keep in the entrance? People don’t think about this, but all of that makes a huge amount of sense energetically. If you like have lots of boxes and things that you’re going to take to the tip of you shoes get dumped there but not neatly put away, then the energy coming into your house gets discombobulated as well.

[00:16:37] Juliette Karaman: Yeah,

[00:16:37] Amy Babish: it’s like when people

[00:16:40] Amy Babish: I tend to sometimes attract people who have like pristine homes. So it’s everything that’s so structured, it’s like there’s not room for flexibility and flow and authenticity. And then that is oftentimes mirrored then in their personal lives. So it’s these people don’t have so much clutter, but they’re like really oh, I love my home just as it is.

[00:16:57] Amy Babish: I don’t really want to change the pictures around or don’t let the walls breathe for a week. That’s too much chaos for me. And so the spontaneity that we need to have that like spark of our own aliveness or spark with a partner is oftentimes being reflected in our house. Oh yeah.

[00:17:14] Juliette Karaman: Oh my God.

[00:17:15] Juliette Karaman: I love this. This is such a cool addition to the rest of the work that I do. I’m like, Ooh, that’s, that sounds interesting. Like I need a package. Just another thing, right? But it’s so interesting, right? And I talk to a lot of people who have been on this healing journey themselves. And then oftentimes it is something that drew us because we’ve had some kind of trauma or we’ve had some kind of something that catapulted us into wanting to help others.

[00:17:46] Juliette Karaman: Do you mind sharing your story a little bit or what was your catalyst?

[00:17:51] Amy Babish: So I would say that I can’t, I’m an art therapist by training. That’s what my master’s degree is. And so when I started down that path, I didn’t know I wanted to be an art therapist. I didn’t have that as this is what I want to be when I grow up.

[00:18:04] Amy Babish: But I started to have dreams of my childhood experience and I come from a very complex trauma kind of background personally. And even though I started to have these dreams of. Some of my experiences and some of the memories that came back. I didn’t, I wasn’t a full yes, like this is oftentimes my journey, like I had the awareness of maybe I’m supposed to help people with this.

[00:18:29] Amy Babish: But it wasn’t until I was working in a law firm after college that I saw this. a photojournalist who was doing artwork, like photography with kids in Durham, North Carolina. Her name’s Wendy Ewald, and she’s really helps people to understand literacy through photography. And then I found art therapy that way.

[00:18:46] Amy Babish: It was just like through this Washington Post article, I never heard of art therapy. And I was like, Oh, I was a double art and psych major in college. Maybe this is for me. And as I went through graduate school and I was a child therapist for the first decade of my career working with sex abuse and sex trafficking, more of my own history came up and I was like, there are no coincidences.

[00:19:09] Amy Babish: Like I don’t have a conscious memory of this. And it started to come back and I realized just how, Important it is to do your own personal work because a lot of therapists actually do their own personal work. Graduate school is about the academic and the theories. And sometimes, there’s always supervision on how you’re working with clients, but it’s not required for a therapist to do their own personal work.

[00:19:32] Amy Babish: So it became very clear to me and evident to me that I needed to really get the support I needed to be able to have the capacity to support others like very early on in graduate school. So that’s. That’s one of my layers, and I think I signed up in this lifetime to clear a lot of karma and dissolve a lot of karma because I wasn’t always the benevolent healer in other lifetimes, and I think that With my equity work it was really clear about me using I’m a white bodied woman, for people who are not watching the YouTube or the videos it’s important for me to use my privilege to give back how it’s showing up in this lifetime.

[00:20:11] Amy Babish: And as someone who’s, had many lifetimes, the places that I’m called and invited to facilitate with equity work, oftentimes there are a lot of lessons for me there because I’ve been there in other lifetimes. I’m integrating many, like the arc of lifetimes with how I use my privilege and how I use my capacity as a healer in very different

[00:20:29] Juliette Karaman: ways.

[00:20:30] Juliette Karaman: I love this and I love how, one of my daughters is an artist and so she’s just done a master’s and she’s going into her second year and she’s just wondering does she want to continue doing this and she, her paintings are massive and every time that she goes through a big piece of grief, she produces a lot.

[00:20:55] Juliette Karaman: And I’m like, baby, you also need to produce when you’re not grieving. So of course, now the whole Palestine question that’s had her pop again when her boyfriend passed away, that was one of her grieving moments. She also wrote about it, but I’m actually seeing where she’s really interested in therapy.

[00:21:12] Juliette Karaman: So I’m going to suggest art therapy to her and just also see where that will lead her. And I love what you’re saying about the equity work. We, As women, white women with privilege, we are very privileged. Yes, I live in the UK, I’m a foreigner. People do know that I’m a foreigner because they understand my accent.

[00:21:33] Juliette Karaman: They’re like, oh, where are you from? But I don’t get treated the same way that, Yeah. A person from India or a person from Bangladesh or a person from the Arab world would. And it’s just so interesting to see, and especially in this this age and time, in, in winter 2024, what we’re going through and how there are so many The status quo of being a certain way and of having to think a certain way and act a certain way while not recognizing how other people may feel about that.

[00:22:16] Amy Babish: Yeah. Like the standards that people think is the standard is oftentimes, many places in the Western world is colonialized or from empire and that standard doesn’t serve a lot of people. It’s such. There’s so many conflicts going on. It’s so charged in so many places and it’s there’s not a magic wand, but there is a lot of opportunity for people to really do their personal work to see things differently, to see things as a whole, to see things not from a Western lens or from a colonial lens.

[00:22:45] Amy Babish: And the equity work that I support peacebuilders and justice keepers with my equity work. And it’s then they take that work to their communities and it’s these people are on the front lines. It’s amazing. You never know when you say yes to something how much impact you can create and the ripple effect from that.

[00:23:02] Amy Babish: So I encourage the healers and the helpers who are listening to really tune into what that is for them.

[00:23:09] Juliette Karaman: Completely. And it’s, we’re, we are privileged and I thank God every day. I’m like, Oh my God, I actually get to do something that I love. And. Yes, I, my prices are a certain standard, but that’s also because then I can work with, for free, with refugees and with people that need it and people that are traumatized and that do have lots of sexual trauma on board and that have no means of bettering their lives unless, they actually get taught these methods.

[00:23:38] Juliette Karaman: I feel like, but. Isn’t that overgiving? And I’m like, it would be overgiving if that’s all I do, but I actually work with some high clients, high network clients, and they also realize why am I charging certain prices is because I give back a lot.

[00:23:56] Amy Babish: And it’s that’s the essence of a social impact model.

[00:23:59] Amy Babish: Like we hear social impact and some people think of environmentalism, but this is another way of having a social impact model, which I think, is so helpful for so many

[00:24:07] Juliette Karaman: different reasons. Completely. At the moment I’m helping a an orphanage in Uganda and with 44 kids, I can’t do it alone either.

[00:24:15] Juliette Karaman: That’s the thing. It’s guys, I’ve got four kids of my own and a lot of life things coming up and, helping out that and then helping people get through school in Lebanon. And helping Syrian refugees, and now the Palestinians, and it’s you can get also completely almost so discombobulated, going down that route, like life is terrible and the world is such a shit place.

[00:24:41] Juliette Karaman: I see this and I see where a lot of young youths, I would say like young tweens, like in their twenties, young, early adults, my, like my kids age, between 22, 25, 26, they get really affected by what’s going on in the world. And they go on protests and they try to help. And then they get really, like very down about it.

[00:25:03] Juliette Karaman: It’s but what if I can’t help? And then, what’s life even worth living for?

[00:25:08] Amy Babish: Yeah, I feel like, I don’t think it’s just, I see it a lot in that age group, but I feel like a lot of people who are aware of the complexity what’s going on. I think that the getting mired into the pendulum of things.

[00:25:20] Amy Babish: It’s it’s either going to be really super horrible or it’s never going to get better, or it needs to be like one way. And it’s part of that as I think part of being able to hold the non duality of life. And you say this is my next step. This is what I’m going to take next. I don’t know the ripple effect it’s going to have.

[00:25:36] Amy Babish: I don’t know how much, what percentage of impact it’s going to create. But I can use my own sphere of influence and my agency to create change. And I think that’s something that’s definitely missing in the 20 something age group and even some of the 30 and 40s. Age group, but I think that it’s totally the vibe of social media too, so I

[00:25:56] Juliette Karaman: think

[00:25:57] Amy Babish: people are in the pendulums and it’s like there’s a much more potent way in the middle ground.

[00:26:02] Juliette Karaman: Yeah. And really just like jumping off the pendulums Oh, I can get on this war pendulum and everything is you’re terrible and you’re terrible and you’re doing this. Or you can get off it and actually think how can we educate people, how can we educate ourselves, and how can we get the hell out of this and make sure that these things never again means never again for everyone worldwide, not just excluding a few countries here and there because they don’t really fit the criteria.

[00:26:29] Amy Babish: Yeah, I’ve been surprised because I’m very much about, we need to end the war, cease fire, and I’m also about bringing the hostages back. And I think that some people have so much kind of charge and hurt and pain around it. They can’t hear that you can be.

[00:26:44] Juliette Karaman: Yes. Yeah. It’s

[00:26:45] Amy Babish: like you can have, I can be pro, and also have boundaries.

[00:26:50] Juliette Karaman: Pro human, humanitarian. That’s what I keep saying. It’s I’m humanitarian. It doesn’t really matter what it means. That means pro life. That means, pro everything. That means anti Islamophobia, anti Semitic, anti everything, anti colonialism. Oh my God. The list just becomes massive.

[00:27:10] Amy Babish: And that, I have compassion where the 20 somethings and 30 somethings get mired in that because they just, it’s like boom, another thing. And it’s this is being human. This is what we signed

[00:27:18] Juliette Karaman: up for. I know. It’s can we go back and not be human?

[00:27:22] Amy Babish: That is a choice for some people.

[00:27:24] Juliette Karaman: I love it. One of my first mentors when I first started like waking up and then really noticing what’s going on in this life around me, she’s if you can outrun it, I mean run as hell if you can. And then she finished it saying, but you cannot. And I was like, oh, that. Yeah, but it’s interesting where you just see that the world is waking up and we’re all, not everyone, a good amount of people are just trying to see it’s oh, we don’t have to be stuck in this kind of vibration, this matrix, however you want to call it.

[00:28:01] Juliette Karaman: Yeah,

[00:28:02] Amy Babish: it’s like we can have a different experience that is allowed to see the whole but not be like, we don’t have to be in the quagmire. To have agency, like you can move board and not be in the quicksand.

[00:28:14] Juliette Karaman: That’s a beautiful way of putting it. Love it. Amy, how do people get in touch with you?

[00:28:20] Juliette Karaman: They’re like, Oh my God, I want to hear more about this woman. I want to do some courses with her. You do in person retreats, you do a whole bunch of stuff. Why don’t you expand a bit?

[00:28:33] Amy Babish: So I work individually. for private coaching, both house therapy and then somatic relationship coaching. People can find me on my website, which is my name, amybabish.

[00:28:42] Amy Babish: com. They can find me on Instagram at amybabish. And then I’m also on Substack and my Substack is the big life you came to live. And I’m offering a discount to your listeners. So generous! A 90 minute session with me is usually 900 and I’m offering it for 720 and the code is feelingfullyyou.

[00:29:04] Juliette Karaman: Love it. I will make sure that everything goes into the show notes.

[00:29:10] Juliette Karaman: I cannot. enough for coming on and just showing your heart, your life, your essence with us.

[00:29:19] Amy Babish: Thank you. Thank you for knowing me all these years. And I’m so grateful for our connection and thank you for being the person that leads the way in this way.

[00:29:27] Juliette Karaman: Thank you, my love. And as always, please share this with anyone that you’re like, yes, they need to hear this.

[00:29:35] Juliette Karaman: Share give us a review. All of that really helps with spreading the love. Much love, darlings. Bye.

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