Episode 72 Empowering Women Through Hormonal Health: A Conversation with Elizabeth Sergeant

On: Apr 2, 2024

Hello, lovely listeners! Whether it’s morning, afternoon, or even the middle of the night, I’m thrilled to have you back for another episode of The Scrumptious Woman. Today, we have a fascinating guest who’s truly a magician in the realm of hormonal health and functional medicine. Join me in welcoming Elizabeth Sergeant, who’s here to share her insights into how hormones and functional medicine can truly transform women’s lives.

Summary:

In this enlightening episode of The Scrumptious Woman, Juliette Karaman engages in a captivating conversation with Elizabeth Sergeant, a leading expert in hormonal health and functional medicine.

Elizabeth shares her journey and expertise in supporting women worldwide through her fully integrated functional medicine clinic in the UK. She emphasises the holistic approach to women’s health, highlighting the intricate connections between hormones, emotions, and overall well-being.

Elizabeth delves into the importance of understanding hormonal imbalances and their impact on women’s lives, particularly during transitional phases like menopause and perimenopause. She stresses the need for a root cause approach, utilising functional testing and, when necessary, bioidentical hormone support to address individual needs effectively.

The discussion extends to societal narratives surrounding menstrual health, menopause, and women’s experiences in the workplace and education systems. Elizabeth advocates for destigmatising menstruation and providing comprehensive education and support to empower women of all ages to understand and embrace their hormonal rhythms.

Key Takeaways:

Holistic Approach to Women’s Health: Elizabeth emphasises the interconnectedness of various bodily systems, advocating for a holistic understanding of women’s health beyond mere symptom management.
Root Cause Investigation: Functional medicine offers a comprehensive approach to identifying and addressing the underlying causes of hormonal imbalances, enabling tailored interventions for optimal health outcomes.
Empowerment Through Education: By fostering open conversations and providing education on menstrual health, women can gain greater awareness of their bodies and make informed decisions to enhance their overall well-being.
Workplace and Educational Support: Elizabeth highlights the need for inclusive policies and practices that accommodate women’s hormonal needs in professional and academic settings, ultimately fostering a more supportive and understanding environment.
Self-awareness and Empowerment: Encouraging women to tune into their bodies’ signals, cultivate self-awareness, and embrace their hormonal rhythms lays the foundation for empowered decision-making and holistic health.

Don’t miss out on the valuable insights shared by Elizabeth Sergeant in this episode of The Scrumptious Woman Podcast!

Tune in to discover how understanding and embracing your hormonal health can empower you to lead.

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Transcription:

The Scrumptious Woman EP72

[00:00:00] Juliette Karaman: Good morning, good afternoon, good middle of the night, wherever you are and welcome to another episode of The Scrumptious Woman. I have with me Elizabeth Sergeant, who is a real magician in figuring out where hormones and functional medicine can really help woman

[00:00:22] Juliette Karaman: welcome Elizabeth, you have some really exciting things on the horizon. I do.

[00:00:29] Elizabeth Sergeant: Thank you, Juliet, and thank you for that fabulous welcome. I like being a magician. I’m gonna take

[00:00:35] Juliette Karaman: that on. Absolutely. It’s it’s, explain a little bit more what you do because so many women in our late 40s, 50s are struggling with menopause, right?

[00:00:49] Elizabeth Sergeant: Yeah, absolutely. I lead a clinic. So it’s a function. It’s actually now it is fully integrated functional medicine, women’s health clinic. So I’m based here in the UK but we work with women worldwide. And what we do is really support women in coming back into connection with their bodies and their hormones.

[00:01:11] Elizabeth Sergeant: And in doing that, we take a very root cause and holistic approach with regards to our body as one system. As we move through life and as we move through our menstrual health, as we move into perimenopause and menopause, all of those systems are very intellectual. interlinked. So our gut is interlinked with our hormones.

[00:01:32] Elizabeth Sergeant: Our adrenals are interlinked with our hormones. All of the systems, our neurobiology. So in functional medicine, we look at how all of those systems work together. And look at doing testing, understand someone’s journey to where they are, we do functional testing. And then for those who need it, we’re now able to offer bioidentical hormone support as well, which is very exciting.

[00:01:57] Juliette Karaman: I love it. It’s so exciting, right? Because I look at the emotions and how emotions load into our body and create disease. So it’s very similar to yours, except I don’t do the testing. But it’s, we just recognize that we’re made out of everything, right? It’s not just our brains like, oh, okay, I’ve got this illness, so let’s do this.

[00:02:20] Juliette Karaman: Let’s get a little plaster, put it on, and hope for the best. Because that’s often what Western medicine does.

[00:02:27] Elizabeth Sergeant: Yeah, absolutely. And what’s really interesting when you’re talking about the emotional part, that is such a huge part. And I think people often come into my world, either having worked on the emotional piece first, so releasing past traumas, working through energetic imbalances.

[00:02:46] Elizabeth Sergeant: And then it’s right now, let’s support my body, bring itself back into balance. And quite often it is a cascade effect. There’ll be one system. And quite often in that particular case, it may be the adrenals that have really been overworking as a result of, that pressure that’s being put on the nervous system for so long.

[00:03:04] Elizabeth Sergeant: And actually, as a result of that, there may be nutrient deficiencies. There could be imbalances in the gut. The gut brain connection is huge and it, the gut brain connection with regards to anxiety and stress and emotions is huge. They come to me and then we’re able to support them, bring everything back in balance.

[00:03:21] Elizabeth Sergeant: And so often it is a beautiful cascade. We’ll look at some of the root causes. Look at those and everything will fall in place. Or the other way, which actually a lot of women do come this way, the symptoms are screaming the loudest. Yeah. So they get to that point and they’ll come to me and we’ll really work on lifting those symptoms, creating space and ease.

[00:03:44] Elizabeth Sergeant: in their world, which then opens up their mind. And through our conversations, I’m able to talk to them about where are you holding energy that’s not serving you? Where are you giving your energy away? And that’s then when they start going down that route, what you’re talking about with regards to the emotions and actually releasing so much that they’re holding onto.

[00:04:03] Juliette Karaman: It’s crazy, right? Because you talk to a normal person that hasn’t I see a lot of personal development and all of a sudden you’re asking them like, hey, do you often say yes to things that you actually don’t want to? Do you feel like you’re doing things out of obligation? And they look at me, it’s of course I do.

[00:04:21] Juliette Karaman: That’s I’m a parent. That’s what I’m supposed to do. I’m like, oh, Do you have lots of aches and pains? Oh my God, everything is my life is just shit. I’m like, start by actually just looking at where you are, like what you’re saying, where you’re giving your power away. But where are you saying yes when you actually don’t want to say yes?

[00:04:41] Juliette Karaman: And that all lodges in the body and the body remembers, really. The body remembers every time that you’ve said yes and it’s actually been a no. And then it just doesn’t start to trust you anymore.

[00:04:52] Elizabeth Sergeant: Yeah, absolutely. That’s huge. And I see that a lot, that particular yes piece and yes, and control as well in a lot of the high achieving ladies, because, in many ways, that’s what’s kept them safe.

[00:05:06] Elizabeth Sergeant: And that’s what’s got them to where they are by saying yes to things, by driving, by achieving, by actually taking control of situations because they know they can do it. to the most amazing standard. Often that’s exacerbated when they become mothers because particularly at the beginning of a child’s life or a baby’s life, we are as females the primary caregiver.

[00:05:28] Elizabeth Sergeant: So then we take over control of the baby situation and then the child’s toddler situation. And it just becomes this huge kind of energetic leak. And what, and unfortunately becomes a physiological and emotional burden and it stops us. It stops us. So it’s, yeah, absolutely. When you’re saying about that, there’s so many, those little emotions that creep in and slowly eat away at us.

[00:05:58] Juliette Karaman: Love that. So for our listeners that are in that kind of treadmill. It’s we’re high performers, we’re doing really well at work, but we feel that there are definitely some things that I could, relax and I could, what are the symptoms that people, what are the screaming red lights?

[00:06:19] Juliette Karaman: I know them, but let’s just talk, say what are two or three things that people just come to you every time again and again, because you have clients that come to you with the same things every time, right?

[00:06:30] Elizabeth Sergeant: Yeah. So I think some of the big ones, those physiological symptoms that people come in with first of all, it’ll actually, I know we’ve been talking about women in midlife, but actually quite a lot of them come earlier during menstrual health.

[00:06:42] Elizabeth Sergeant: So when we’re regularly menstruating, so for our twenties and thirties, and that could be some of those screaming symptoms at certain times of the month. So it’s the symptoms that we take as being normal. But actually when we dig into it and understand that so many of these symptoms, like heavy periods, painful periods, low mood, anxiety, loss of confidence at certain times a month acne, IBS, they’re not, IBS, cyclical IBS, they’re not normal.

[00:07:12] Elizabeth Sergeant: At all. They’re just common. So from a biological perspective, we shouldn’t be experiencing any of those. If we are moving through our twenties and thirties and experiencing those, actually we want to be asking, okay, what’s going on? This is a very highly intelligent feedback mechanism that our body has with communicating to us.

[00:07:30] Elizabeth Sergeant: So every month it’s saying something’s not right. Can we just tune in and see what I need to do? So that’s the first piece. And then as we move through late 30s into 40s, often if we haven’t been tuning into that, if we have been going at a million miles an hour, as we move into perimenopause, and this is what really just I’m so passionate about because this is where we see women at the height of their careers.

[00:07:58] Elizabeth Sergeant: They might have either a young family, more women are having children later on. So either they’ve got a young family or they’ve got teenagers and they’re moving through their forties into their fifties, one, in an incredible point in their life. And if we’ve been going in at 100 miles an hour, Perimenopause starts to happen.

[00:08:18] Elizabeth Sergeant: Hormones start to change. And some of those symptoms that we’ve been ignoring start to really heighten. And some of the big ones that I see for women are around anxiety, loss of confidence, and like that brain fog, not quite remembering, not being on top form. And I think what’s absolutely heartbreaking, and I was speaking to a lady actually just yesterday about this, She’s had an absolutely incredible career and as she was mid to late 40s, I believe she’s around 47, 47, yes her brain capacity just wasn’t what it was and she was finding that She wasn’t able to work at her performance.

[00:09:03] Elizabeth Sergeant: And in the end, because she felt like she was letting her team down, she wasn’t really tuned in. She resigned from her career. On the conversation I had with her yesterday, she said I just thought, my work were incredible. I’d said that I thought it might be perimenopause. They understood, in my performance reviews.

[00:09:23] Elizabeth Sergeant: I’d always been exceeding expectations and suddenly I wasn’t exceeding expectations anymore. And I thought they don’t really need me in the team. They want someone younger who can actually have the energy and do it. And that was her own fault. No one had said that, but that’s how we feel. And so often we see women going into that phase, peak of your career.

[00:09:42] Elizabeth Sergeant: And then, I can’t cope. And actually, then ducking out. So much needs to be

[00:09:48] Juliette Karaman: addressed. It’s so true. I’ve had a few clients like that as well. Peak at their career tech, America, Silicon Valley, so it’s fast paced. And then thinking that they’re burning out. And it’s ah, actually, are you slowing down enough to really notice what your body needs here?

[00:10:07] Juliette Karaman: But I love how you also said that periods. And I have two daughters that, are in their 20s. So they’re in the midst of it. And one of them has really bad periods. So she actually can’t go to university those first two days. And it’s funny because when she talks to me about it, I understand it.

[00:10:28] Juliette Karaman: But when she talks to university about it, they’re like, yeah, you should just be coming to all the classes. And I know that you’re passionate about this. And then how can we change that in the workplace and university? Just that people start becoming more aware of what that time of the month is without Yeah, there’s so many jokes like, oh, are you coming on your period?

[00:10:51] Juliette Karaman: Are you on the rag? Yeah, this is oh, because you’re in a shit mood. It’s no, let’s actually normalize that hormones. do happen. And it’s really important.

[00:11:00] Elizabeth Sergeant: Yeah. The societal narrative around menstrual health around periods is absolutely horrendous. So many young women completely switch off from their menstrual cycle and that actual, natural hormonal rhythm in their teens because of the narrative.

[00:11:16] Elizabeth Sergeant: Yes, our cycles are going to be clunky when they first start, in our teens as our communication channels between her brain and our ovaries find their groove. But it’s that narrative that brings in the embarrassment, brings in shame and gosh, it absolutely heartbreaking for your daughter that the university doesn’t understand.

[00:11:34] Elizabeth Sergeant: And, that goes also to the schooling system, one of the things that I was really talking a lot about last summer when, all the kids were doing the GCSEs and A levels. is that’s over a, often over maybe a two month period. And for a lot of, young girls during that time, they’re probably going to have at least one cycle, if not two cycles.

[00:11:56] Elizabeth Sergeant: Now, if that falls on a day when you have an exam, and just like your daughter, you struggle to fully kind of function, you may get headaches, you may have low energy. That’s absolutely going to impact your exam performance, but there’s no conversation to this. There’s no the approach is very archaic with regards to that.

[00:12:17] Elizabeth Sergeant: And, then that translates into universities and has done until recently translated into the workplace. Now, I think the amazing piece in the workplace particularly recently, and particularly in the UK is there’s now a lot more awareness around menstrual health and particularly menopause in the workplace.

[00:12:37] Elizabeth Sergeant: So over the last, I’d say 18 months, two years. It’s been a real change in narrative and people are talking about menstrual health, menopause in the workplace. They’re putting in policies and more flexibility for women. So on one hand, That is incredible because it is allowing us to have conversations.

[00:13:02] Elizabeth Sergeant: The challenge is for so many women, it’s not addressing the actual root cause. Like for your daughter, it’s not addressing that she’s experiencing, being so unwell when her period comes. But for the lady that I was just talking to, for her, she was allowed flexible working. But all that meant is she was in discomfort, but now at home.

[00:13:25] Elizabeth Sergeant: So feeling anxiety, feeling inadequate, loss of confidence, but now she’s isolated at home. So whilst this is offered, it’s brought the conversation to the table. In many ways, I very much feel that actually we’re at risk of further disconnecting women from the workplace because We’re not actually addressing, they’re still like suffering, so they’re still going to be leaving.

[00:13:51] Elizabeth Sergeant: But we want to be actually starting to intervene and understand what can we do to alleviate these symptoms. What can we do to really put things in place that support you as an individual? And so much of that, comes down to having conversations with companies, changing. Actually probably more like a policy level, how education systems are, operated, which is obviously a much bigger project, but there’s so much we can be doing for the individual, which will benefit the university because their, their students are going to be performing at a much higher level.

[00:14:26] Elizabeth Sergeant: And an organization. They’re not going to have leaders ducking out of the workplace after, 20 years of incredible experience then just lost and then having to recruit. They’ll have women operating a much higher level because, they’re not turning up to work and you have presenteeism.

[00:14:46] Elizabeth Sergeant: So you’re you’re there, but because you’ve got a headache or you’ve got a migraine or you’re feeling nauseous, you’re not actually fully there. So much of that is completely unnecessary. Yes, we need to be doing more, Juliet.

[00:14:58] Juliette Karaman: No, and I really love it. And then it’s like, how can we get the workplace, university, schools?

[00:15:03] Juliette Karaman: Because let’s face it girls are getting their periods often much younger than I was. It’s early teens at the moment, even. And then, of course, there might be the odd one that even gets it much earlier than that. Where can we, as, because my girls went to an all girls school in London, where can we actually just give that proper education hey, this is what’s going to happen.

[00:15:27] Juliette Karaman: And also, let’s become aware of that. And these are the things that you can do to make it easier on yourself, to make it easier on your

[00:15:34] Elizabeth Sergeant: body. Yeah, absolutely. And these are some of the conversations I’m really starting to have with schools, with organisations. Yeah. We very much go in there and support organizations actually work with individuals.

[00:15:47] Elizabeth Sergeant: But from a schooling perspective, it’s a really It’s a really motivating and inspiring conversation when you have schools who are open to talk about this in a different way. When I was at school, it was just like very biology lesson this is a period now try not to get pregnant.

[00:16:05] Elizabeth Sergeant: That was the extent of the conversation. I went to an all

girls

[00:16:10] Juliette Karaman: school. You get pregnant, so do not do that.

[00:16:13] Elizabeth Sergeant: Exactly. And I went to an all girls school where You would think there was a much more open environment to have more depth to that conversation. There should be in all schools, but I appreciate there could be some embarrassment associated with that in mixed schools if it wasn’t handled quite right.

[00:16:29] Elizabeth Sergeant: But, but they are the conversations we need to be advancing. And that’s where we should be empowering our girls, like your daughter who suffers at a certain time of the month. What can they do? To support themselves so actually those symptoms aren’t as heightened as they are. There’ll be definitely things that they could do, at a dietary level and it doesn’t mean changing their diet all month round.

[00:16:50] Elizabeth Sergeant: We can be strategic in the week before, like one of the things I do see, and this is a little tip for anyone, for girls who do suffer when their period comes and it is, there’s more girls out there that suffer than you will think. So open, allow them to talk to their friends about it because, it’s, it’s amazing how many mums come to me and they think they’re the only one whose daughter is experiencing this.

[00:17:15] Elizabeth Sergeant: It’s not. Rest assured. But one of the small things that I’ve really seen help girls is being very aware of sugar and carbohydrate, like refined carbohydrates. In that week, in the run up to their period. Now, I’m not, I know as teenagers and as young adults, I’m not actually saying cut out sugar and refined carbohydrates.

[00:17:36] Elizabeth Sergeant: We don’t want to be restrictive, but we do need to understand that they’re not helping us. They’re creating an inflammatory environment. So if we can educate our girls to start feeling into that and seeing if, if they cut it out for the week before, how does that relieve the symptoms?

[00:17:55] Elizabeth Sergeant: And the powers end up back in their fingertips.

[00:17:58] Juliette Karaman: And it’s so beautiful because what you’re alluding to is also just awareness, right? Start being aware of what’s happening in your body and start doing this as of an early age. So perhaps that’s, writing down in your notes on your phone or a journal.

[00:18:13] Juliette Karaman: It’s oh, what am I feeling? How was my mood today? Just little things like that can make such a difference. And I noticed with one of my twins that she The week after her period, she eats lots of crap and all like these sour sweets. And like I slept over in London the other day and I slept in next to her in her bed and I was just like shocked at the kind of crap that was in her room.

[00:18:39] Juliette Karaman: Oh, she’s yeah, it was my period. Okay. But she also realizes if she cuts that out and for her, it’s dairy as well. So sometimes if she. is just more vigilant about it, then she’s absolutely fine. Goes out into nature more, but it’s the really becoming aware of what things work and what things don’t work for us.

[00:19:01] Juliette Karaman: And sometimes that’s a bit of error and trial.

[00:19:03] Elizabeth Sergeant: Yeah. And what I think is really nice as mothers and fathers, we can start encouraging our daughters, like you say, at a younger age. So even before they have start their periods, to start doing journaling. So at the beginning, it’ll be like drawing and doodling.

[00:19:19] Elizabeth Sergeant: And, obviously that can continue. Any kind of expressive journalism, journaling, that allows them to express how they feel. And importantly, What they feel within, because we can talk about feelings and emotions up here in the head, but what we want to get them to do is start feeling what they feel inside.

[00:19:37] Elizabeth Sergeant: So sensations, when they feel nervous, do they feel like butterflies in their tummy? If they, get a little shock, someone comes up and goes boo, or a car goes past, and do they feel that in their heart? So just start allowing them to notice sensations and then get them to journal, draw, just start putting them down on paper, because that is going to absolutely set them up for when their periods start.

[00:20:02] Elizabeth Sergeant: And obviously during that, teen years, it’s going to be an incredible outlet for them to become aware of their own rhythms, because, we all know. that we do have rhythms, our energy ebbs and flows at different times of the month, our mood does, our creativity, our confidence changes. So starting them young and then allowing them to flow with that is, it, we’re setting them up for success.

[00:20:26] Juliette Karaman: Completely. And that’s what we always want to do. So I love how you say start with doodling, start with some kind of prompts and the body sensations are so important. And I remember teaching this to my kids when they were younger and they were like, Oh mommy, I’m anxious. I’m like, okay, so what does anxious feel like in your body?

[00:20:45] Juliette Karaman: I’m like, this is anxious. I’m like, okay, so is that, is there an expansion in your body? Is there a contraction? Does it have a different Temperature. Does it have a different texture? And they’re like, oh, I never thought about that. I’m like, okay, so just pinpoint, put your hand there. And they’re like, oh, anxiety.

[00:21:04] Juliette Karaman: I feel it in my chest. I’m like, great. So what is it? Is it tight? Or is it loose? Like tight. Like great. Is it gripping? Or is it does it feel like it’s moving? Or is it static? They’re like no, it’s moving. So what does the texture feel like? Is it thorny? Is it buttery? Is it velvety? And they’re like, Ooh, I never thought about that.

[00:21:25] Juliette Karaman: It’s Oh no, it’s a bit metallic. I’m like, Okay, perfect. So now that kind of has taught them, it’s yeah. So now when they say it, it’s Oh. How are you doing? And they’re like, yeah, I’ve got this gripping feeling in my chest. And I think it’s anxiety. Don’t really want to know what it is, but it’s just it’s gripping and it feels really uncomfortable.

[00:21:46] Juliette Karaman: And it just feels like gray, heavy, metallic. It’s great. Now I understand, because I can understand what that would feel like in my body, so now I understand what you’re going through. And it’s just such a good exercise to have with your brothers, with your father, with your partners, because instead of just saying, oh, I’m in love or I’m happy, it’s let’s actually have them understand what that feels like in your body, so that they can experience that too.

[00:22:17] Elizabeth Sergeant: Yes. Oh my goodness. I absolutely love that. And it’s interesting you saying that, as you were saying, one of the big things that I do with a lot of the women that I work with, because as high achievers. And I put myself in that play, even though I’ve now become so much more attuned, I had a corporate career before I moved into this.

[00:22:34] Elizabeth Sergeant: And it’s the first time often working with me that they’ve to come into conversation with their body. So one of the pieces, what I do is asking them to notice sensations. When they wake up in the morning, Actually, is their heart racing? And that’s often a learnt response to years of getting up, doing the workout, grabbing breakfast, maybe sorting the kids out, getting, doing the school run, doing rush hour, in the office, into a meeting.

[00:23:00] Elizabeth Sergeant: And that would be a learnt response, exacerbated by your natural cortisol awakening response. But they never noticed and starting to notice it and then starting to feel in and allow that to move and how that changes throughout the day. And it’s incredible because the beginning is so difficult. And I know you’ll know this from working with clients, that it’s really difficult for them to just start to notice it.

[00:23:22] Elizabeth Sergeant: But as soon as you just get little bits, and there’s like areas during the day where I know there’s going to be things going on. So I prompt them to start there. Then they start noticing so much. And then. In that you start to get that flow which is then becomes so powerful with what you can do with it.

[00:23:38] Elizabeth Sergeant: But I absolutely love what you were saying there around really describing it. Because like you said, when you described that, I could feel that in myself.

[00:23:47] Juliette Karaman: It’s much easier than to say, oh, how are you doing? Yeah, I’m, everyone says they’re fine, right? I’m fine. I’m fine. It’s yeah, you don’t look fine.

[00:23:55] Juliette Karaman: Your energy doesn’t say fine, but hey, but then if you’re just like, oh, okay my, and instead of saying something is painful, it’s actually it’s oh yeah, my hip is pain, it was painful. I’ve just had, I had a hip operation. It’s instead of saying that it’s just oh yeah, there’s a bit of tightness in my hip.

[00:24:12] Juliette Karaman: There is. a foreign body in it, so the muscles in and around it just feel a little bit stretched and discombobulated. It feels stretched and then there’s like energy moving through it, which is a bit raggedy. That’s, it’s not pain anymore, you just rephrase where, because when you say pain, your body then immediately starts clenching.

[00:24:35] Elizabeth Sergeant: Yeah, absolutely. So powerful.

[00:24:38] Juliette Karaman: Anyway, I love doing this stuff. Liz, tell our listeners where they can find you, what, how they can start with you. You have, I know, different levels of people coming in and helping them.

[00:24:53] Elizabeth Sergeant: Yeah. You can find me first of all over on Instagram. I’m at wellnourished club.

[00:24:59] Elizabeth Sergeant: Also, I do a lot of work on LinkedIn. So the content’s very different on each platform. So I’d say Instagram is very much working with the individual, with yourself, lots of information, education around hormones, perimenopause. LinkedIn, it’s Elizabeth Sargent. And there I’m really talking about women in business, in their careers and talking to the companies as well.

[00:25:21] Elizabeth Sergeant: So it’s a very different conversation, but I think both would be really interesting for your audience. And then, yeah, a great way to come in and start working with us as an individual is probably our women’s health assessments. That’s an opportunity for you to come with, come, we’ll have a full look at your health history.

[00:25:39] Elizabeth Sergeant: understand your story and that’s what we want. We want to hear your story. What’s led you to this point now and where is it you’re desiring to go? And then obviously how we can help you get there. And as part of that, we can also do a full review of your bloods and give you then a blueprint and roadmap to move forward.

[00:25:56] Elizabeth Sergeant: So that’s a really good, Place to be. If from there we decide, bioidentical hormones may be something worth exploring, then we can go down those routes. But that’s a good place to start. And I’m actually, a real pleasure to offer your listeners a discount on that too. So I’ll let you have a code for the show notes.

[00:26:14] Juliette Karaman: That is amazing. So yes, have a look in the show notes and you get that special extra from from Elizabeth. Love this. Love how you’re helping people. Love how it’s really empowering women to be their best selves again.

[00:26:32] Elizabeth Sergeant: Yes. Yeah. Coming back into conversation about bodies. One of the big things that I say is that Our energy and our hormones, they define who we are as individuals.

[00:26:42] Elizabeth Sergeant: Okay. They shape the decisions we make. They influence the relationships we’re able to build, the closeness we have with our family, the ambitions we have, the confidence we have to go for promotions or build our companies. Really, as just such a foundational piece as women to, Thrive and lead ourselves in the best way we can, actually coming back to our energy and our hormones is just absolutely transformational.

[00:27:10] Elizabeth Sergeant: So it’s such an honour for me to be able to do this work.

[00:27:14] Juliette Karaman: It’s super key. I get Couples that are on the bridge of divorce, and I often have both of them have hormone panels. Let’s actually make sure that there’s not actually something going on in your body. Start being a detective, right?

[00:27:30] Juliette Karaman: Are you near mobile phone masks? What’s in your house? What kind of smells? Are you near arrow, like fresheners, air fresheners? What kind of chemicals are you putting on your stuff, on your hair? And then all of a sudden, it’s once you start doing that, they’re like, Oh! I thought I just hated him.

[00:27:50] Juliette Karaman: I wanted to get divorced, but it’s, there’s actually something happening in my body. Or oftentimes there’s some drama going on, but it’s just really interesting how we can become a detective. And then it’s Oh, so there’s actually just something going on in my hormones and my energy. Yeah,

[00:28:06] Elizabeth Sergeant: absolutely.

[00:28:10] Elizabeth Sergeant: And it’s interesting you say, because often we want to obviously look inside of it, but you’re saying also, looking for the environment and that is something that So powerful. The amount of toxins that we are now exposed to in our home, over the last 60 years, we’ve gone through a chemical revolution and we’ve not evolved fast enough to deal with that.

[00:28:26] Elizabeth Sergeant: So they put a huge amount of burden on us and, looking externally, opening our eyes and then understanding what’s going on inside is huge. It’s yeah. And I think what you were just saying there as well from the hormones for women who are going through perimenopause, it is, it can be such a huge change and it, does create a change in relationships.

[00:28:47] Elizabeth Sergeant: If, the lady, again, the lady I spoke to yesterday, would just say, my husband said, you’re just not you. Why what’s wrong? What’s going on? And at the beginning she did feel lost because she didn’t know what it was. And then, she started putting a few pieces together and then she was, able to get some help and support, but it was creating, I know she didn’t say unrest in the relationship, but there was.

[00:29:09] Elizabeth Sergeant: a gap, if she wasn’t her and, she was feeling more irritated all the time, she had less patience. And it’s, yeah, it’s huge. Absolutely.

[00:29:19] Juliette Karaman: Completely. This is why I love working with you. This is why I like co teaching with you because together with also Natasha, we do a retreat twice a year, which is called Essence Retreat.

[00:29:31] Juliette Karaman: And it’s a two day retreat, really, where women in their 30s to their 50s, maybe early 60s, come together for two days to look at their hormones, look at their emotions, look at their energy, look at their soul, to really come back to who they are in the most scrumptious, delicious setting. So if anyone wants to know that, I will put that in the show notes too.

[00:29:57] Juliette Karaman: Oh

[00:29:57] Elizabeth Sergeant: yes, come join us. We’d love. Love, love meeting your listeners.

[00:30:02] Juliette Karaman: Absolutely. All right, my lovely, thank you so much for coming on. It’s been an absolute pleasure having you.

[00:30:08] Elizabeth Sergeant: Thank you so much. It’s

[00:30:10] Juliette Karaman: been fun. Love.

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