Episode 22 From Self-Hate to Scrumptious: Unveiling the Journey to Empowerment with Kyera Kacey

The Scrumptious Woman EP22

Fri, Sep 22, 2023 9:25AM • 41:36

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

women, feel, affair, bit, scrumptious, body, love, pleasure, realised, completely, people, relationship, turned, experience, cheated, play, energy, shapeshifter, move, massively

SPEAKERS

Juliette Karaman, Kyera Kacey

Juliette Karaman  00:00

Hello my love’s so we are back at the scrumptious woman and we have the most beautiful woman, Kyera Kacey. So she is the naked coach. And she’s an author of psychic seven figures to liberating women around the world, in wealth, business, self expression and beyond. Welcome, welcome. Welcome, sister.

Kyera Kacey  00:25

Thank you so much for having me on. I’m so excited to be here. No, there we go. Hello. Hello. I love that. I think I froze on my side but doesn’t matter.

Kyera Kacey  00:36

You did. It’s okay. It’s perfect. We’re streaming live in my Facebook group. And we’re here. So this is a lot of fun.

Juliette Karaman  00:45

It’s perfect, right? We’re

Juliette Karaman  00:49

just gonna roll with it. That’s what we do. That’s how we do it. So my love. I got this intuitive hit the other day. I’m like, Hey,

Juliette Karaman  00:58

I think you need to be on my podcast. So would you would you be on? I feel like everything in my life, whether it’s an interview, it’s like everything is so last minute. That’s just we don’t even really didn’t plan this. It just was like, and now here we are. Like, let’s hit record and let’s go. That’s how we roll. Right? I honestly I don’t. I don’t like to prepare questions for people because it just feels so

Juliette Karaman  01:26

it’s been prepared. No, we want to be in the moment what’s happening right now right here.

Juliette Karaman  01:32

Yeah, yeah. Amazing. A year all about that. Tell us a bit more about yourself. So we’re in this incredible mastermind together. We’ve been in this for almost two years together. And they met each other in person in Cancun.

Juliette Karaman  01:55

We flew into

Kyera Kacey  01:57

your I flew into the Cancun Airport, we met in tolume we have been in the channel together for two years. And

Kyera Kacey  02:05

what did journey? I mean, I don’t know anybody that came into that programme. That’s not different. Today,

Juliette Karaman  02:12

completely right.

Kyera Kacey  02:14

I know I am. I know you are. I know. Like, a lot has shifted, but a little more about me. I mean, I feel like where do you ever start with that question? I think it was really interesting, because when you asked me to do this with you, I shared with you that one of the things that kind of channelled through that I wanted to speak to was affairs like people either having had an affair or experiencing an affair. And that’s really different. Because normally I’m talking about money, and how to make more money, but the topic affair came through, and you’re the scrumptious woman and that’s what you stand for. And I was like, you know, I’ve overcome infidelity. I’ve overcome, you know, the affair situation, but I feel like a lot of women don’t. And if you’re stuck in that, or you’re moving through a relationship where you’re experiencing someone having had an affair, or you think someone’s having an affair, um, and there’s nothing scrumptious about that. It’s like not the vibe, right?

Juliette Karaman  03:12

But it’s actually well, how can we be present even with that? Right? And I think you touched upon such a beautiful subject, and I’ve been there definitely. But also it’s like, how, how do we even know if it’s an affair? Is having an emotional connection with someone online is flirting with someone online? Is that an affair? Right? I mean, it starts become massively broad. Like, do you put your attention on someone? And is that having an affair? Or is that having a third into your relationship?

Kyera Kacey  03:48

 I think you have to define an affair individually with each person because the reality is like some people are not going to find an emotional connection to be an affair. I would find that to be having an affair. But not everybody would. I honestly I feel like

Kyera Kacey  04:05

though, I caught my first ex husband, you know, literally physically with another woman. He was also like that, of course started with the emotional connection. They connected on an emotional level. And then that turned into the physical connection from there. And so it’s like, if you’re

Kyera Kacey  04:24

engaging with somebody emotionally and you’re starting to build that connection, like more times than not, it’s going to lead to something physical. So I think in today’s world, it’s a lot more easy for people to have have an affair, especially with social media, like you can go on Instagram, if somebody has an account and you can see who they are with their about like it’s just it’s so easy for people to cheat today.

Juliette Karaman  04:48

completely right. And this is this is the whole bit we put ourselves out there in the hope to help others like us, and then, but it’s also the energy that we put up, right because I was in this conscious session.

Juliette Karaman  05:00

Try it around for a while dominatrix so I would get a lot of men hitting on me.

Juliette Karaman  05:05

And it’s like, yeah, that’s not the energy that I want to bring up. But the funny thing is now I don’t have that anymore. Okay, yes, I’m a bit older, but at the same time is it just feels it’s much clearer. It’s like, no, that’s not what I’m available for. But what I am available for, is actually teaching you how to be present with that. How to actually find this consciousness, find the pleasure, the life force in that moment, even when you think everything is shit. And you know, but your whole world has just collapsed when you find out that your partner is with someone else. Yeah, I think it’s really devastating when you find out like your partner, especially if you’re married is having an affair. And what I have found for most women, is that when so obviously, you know this, some people watching this don’t know. But before I moved into the conversation of money in teaching women how to make more money, I moved online, and I was working with women who are going through a divorce. And those women, most of them were moving through infidelity. And there was so much anger and, you know, trust issues. And what I have found, for most women that experience something like that, is that there’s always this lingering fear afterward of the next person is going to do this to me the night so they bring this energy, or this fear into the next relationship, and I can 100% secure and say confidently that like, I have zero fear of being cheated on after what I went through. Like, that’s just not even in my field. But I think I’ve also discovered that like, it’s just, it happens. I’m not saying stay with the person when it does, because I’m not like that would be a deal breaker for me. But it’s also not going to mean anything about me. Hmm, can you go a bit more into it’s not going to mean anything about?

Kyera Kacey  06:50

I’m not going to sit there and go was I not pretty enough? Am I not good enough? Like, what what is it about me that have this person have an affair? Like, I’m not even going to have that conversation? I’m going to be like, you’re done fucked up. You’re out of here, like on to the next like, just like, No, I wasn’t like that, in my experience the first time but it’s more of like an energy. Now when I when I saw my husband at the time with another woman I was guided, I was like, I thought my life was over.

Juliette Karaman  07:19

Right? And then you start making it all about yourself. It’s like, Oh, my God, Advaita. And you brought in tea in the morning, or if I only want this out for me not done that. And then you just kind of think like, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, you make it all about yourself. But now you have cleared that out your field, you’ve moved through that energetic, emotional stuckness. Right. And now have some massively good boundaries I hear.

Kyera Kacey  07:44

I have really good boundaries. And I’m not afraid to like I was, I was sitting at a restaurant one time I was at the bar. This was like recently, maybe a couple months ago, sitting up at the bars there with my girlfriend. And there was a man sitting next to me and he starts hitting on me. He’s got a wedding ring on and then he complements my earrings. And I’m like, I had enough of this guy. So I turned and I looked.

Kyera Kacey  08:06

And I was like, listen, I bet these would look really beautiful on your wife. You should buy her a pair of earrings. That was my way of being like, shut your face like shut the fuck up. I know you’re married. I don’t need you to pay for my dinner. I’m not into this. And I think women are uncomfortable being bold and just being like, You’re not welcome in my field right now. I am certainly not uncomfortable doing that. It is so good. So tell me have you always been this comfortable about who you are what you bring to the world? Teaching others knowing that this is this is the energy that you bring in. By being with you. You shine brighter and everyone else around you shines. Um, yeah, honestly, like I’ve always been really comfortable with discomfort. I’ve always been super bold. I’m not afraid to speak my mind. I’m not afraid to be myself. Like that’s, you know, sometimes growing up that would get me into trouble. Um, but yeah, I honestly like I’ve always been this comfortable. I just love it. Yeah, we, I mean, I’m talking, thinking about the whole Barbie movie and where everyone is like, oh my god, the Barbie.

Kyera Kacey  09:21

It’s just not in my field. Yeah, it’s like you and I both kind of think was like, Okay, it’s had people talking. It’s like, it’s just not aligned for some of us like us, right? We’re like, Yeah, whatever. Yeah, I care. Like, if my energy is going to that. It’s got bigger problems, right.

Juliette Karaman  09:43

So, so where your energy goes or energy flows, right?

Juliette Karaman  09:48

Yeah, yeah. So what is the most empowering thing that you did for yourself after you found that your husband had an affair?

Kyera Kacey  09:58

Well, when I

Kyera Kacey  10:00

I, I’m going to be really honest here. And I talked about this in my book. But when I saw this was in 2016, I bought my husband having an affair. And I did not make conscious choices. I kind of went down this dark hole for several months. And I, you know, I wanted to feel significant after having been cheated on in my marriage. And I was pissed. I was angry.

Kyera Kacey  10:29

I can laugh at it now. But when I caught him, so I caught him in a parking lot. And I had already sensed that he had already knew something was going on. And I caught him in a parking lot. And I was in such a rage that I literally, I blocked him with my car, so they couldn’t go anywhere. And I went and I checked to see if I had golf clubs because I was about to destroy that car. But thankfully, my golf clubs were not my car. But I you know, I share this because I think a lot of people see me now and they’re like, Oh, you’re so like, you’re so evolved or conscious or whatever. And it’s like I want to share, like, I want to share the real real like, it’s not always this way. And so when I found out he was having an affair in 2016, I wanted to feel significant after having been cheated on my marriage. And so I was going to get back at him. The only way in that moment that I knew how and I was going to start sleeping with people that he knew. That’s what I did.

Kyera Kacey  11:24

And I wanted to sleep with his boss. I did. I

Kyera Kacey  11:30

slept with his boss’s brother.

Kyera Kacey  11:40

And you know what?

Kyera Kacey  11:42

Um, yeah, that’s, that’s what I did. And it didn’t fulfil anything for me. And in fact, I realised that it wasn’t, wasn’t helping me at all. I wouldn’t change anything, because I think everything has a purpose. And there’s a lesson behind it. But in truth, that’s what I did. And then when I realised that that was unhealthy, and this wasn’t serving me, that’s when I really started to go, Okay, I’m gonna stop all of this. Let me figure out what I really need to do to heal and overcome this. And that’s when she without he came to life. And I started having this vision of, if I’m this stuck after years of personal development, and I have all these tools in my toolbox if I’m this stuck, what are women? How are other women coping that don’t have the tools that I have. And then I also realise, like, if I’m going through this divorce, and I’m broke, and I can’t pay my mortgage, like, financially, this is a problem for me. But I also realised, like financially, this was probably a problem for a lot of other women, where they’re moving through a divorce. So they want to get out of a relationship, but they don’t have the money to be able to provide for themselves. And so that was actually the first like desire that I really had to start teaching women how to become financially independent. But I had to do that for myself first. And so I really went on this journey. And that’s really how everything that I’m doing.

Juliette Karaman  13:04

Always want me for me, same thing, we have to go through the journey before we can teach or while we’re teaching, right? We’re just like, one metre ahead of someone else and say, oh, yeah, I know how to do this. Let me help you there. So I love love hearing that and also, we get fucking pissed. We get this we see that and we want to cut off their their sleeves and their trousers and their suits.

Kyera Kacey  13:36

Last if I would have been filmed, I honestly like that. i Yeah, that was that was a moment. Everybody’s everybody thinks they.

Juliette Karaman  13:50

Just like that shit.

Kyera Kacey  13:52

Everyone thinks they know how they’re gonna react if they catch their husband or wife cheating. You don’t know until you’re in it. You do not know. I lost my mind. Like crazy. And

Juliette Karaman  14:03

we have all these practices. And all of a sudden the other frontal. Took me offline. It’s like, yeah, just survival and like, like ripping flesh off. And it’s like, you know,

Kyera Kacey  14:19

I remember literally the next day, I felt like a truck had hit me. Because I was, I couldn’t feel anything. In that moment. I was in such a rage that I couldn’t even feel anything. And I was trying to get them out of the car. And I was like punching the car. So it’s like I just remembered like, and that’s like the extent sometimes like in our humaneness, where we experienced betrayal that when you’re in an altered state, period, you’re in an altered state.

Juliette Karaman  14:50

You’re completely and I’ll just say it and then I’ll just save. It’s never good to take a lot of action from that space. It’s like, the body kind of needs to come down from that and that seal where we release where we just didn’t tremoring or we do some kind of somatic experiencing, to actually move it through the body. And I know that you do a lot of boxing and kickboxing and all of that. So I’m sure that might have helped a little bit as well to get rid of some of Russia.

Kyera Kacey  15:15

Yeah, I, this was one. So I speak about this. And she without he and this was when I book right to that he, she without he has a 21 day journal for women going through a divorce or breakup. And one of the things I talk about is like, getting a stripper pole, I call it the stripper pole. And so I love dancing, I love I just love dancing, and I love things that are challenging, and actually pull the unseen is really difficult. It’s really challenging. I’ve never worked in a strip club, but I love dancing. And I had taken a pole dancing class prior to this experience, and I fell in love with it. And I remember, I just wanted to go home and be able to practice and I couldn’t I didn’t have a pole. So when I went through that experience, and I’m like, Okay, what are some things that I can do to actually support myself and healing, I knew movement was gonna be one of them. And so I ordered a pole off of Amazon, I instal it in my bedroom. And I would, a lot of times when I was moving through grief, I would dance. And, you know, I think a lot of times we associate a pole, like a stripper pole to being sexy, and whatever. But the reality is like, it can actually be really healing and it doesn’t have to be sexy. I mean, healing is sexy, but you know what I’m saying? So there were times where I would put slow music on her piano music, and I would just just move my body and just allow myself to really express that that grief and that pain and that sadness through art, like dance is art

Juliette Karaman  16:40

completely. And that’s it right? How can we express ourselves and move it through that so that it doesn’t get stagnant and it doesn’t then come back out the wrong way. When we like, tried to kill everyone around. Bye, bye. Yeah, whatever the way that you talk. So I love that you have a 21 day book. She would that he I love that where it’s a journal and actually people go through that every day. Yeah, and then the pole dancing. I mean, I see your videos. I’m like this is incredible.

Kyera Kacey  17:20

Pole dancing is. People think it’s easy. It’s not just get a pole and try to lift yourself. Take some practice. Oh,

Juliette Karaman  17:29

it’s impossible. I went to two silks, which is, you know, one of the Yeah, silks, aerial silks. I was like, Oh, that’d be easier than pull. Holy moly. I did not know I had muscles in certain parts of my body. And it’s like, the next day. And they were like laughing at me. They were so sweet. These women. But you know, I was probably the eldest in the class. And I’m like, here, I’ll just help your leg over on this sort of like, yeah, my knees are a little bit. My joints don’t work. But it’s so liberating. When you’re on that, Oh, my God. I completely get it.

Kyera Kacey  18:06

I remember, I encourage all women to get a pole for their house. I don’t care where you put it. Just get

Juliette Karaman  18:12

one, get one, put it in your garage, put it wherever you want. Wear it yourself and liberate that body of yours. I remember our

Kyera Kacey  18:21

minds and minds in my bedroom, I found that if it’s in the basement, it’s kind of like that out of sight out of mind. And so when it was in my basement, I wasn’t using it as much and so I decided to put it back up in my bedroom. Much better.

Juliette Karaman  18:32

You can just move these things along there that solid the ones that you bought.

Kyera Kacey  18:37

Yeah, you have to instal it properly. I have had those moments of like, we’re flying off the pool right now is coming off the saline and I’m coming with it. Thankfully, I’ve never hurt myself like you might have seen in some like YouTube videos of other people. But like, you got to make sure it’s installed properly.

Juliette Karaman  18:54

Actually, this is such a good point. Don’t put it in your basement. Don’t put it in your garage. Actually put it in a place that feels good to you. Because you know what? You’re gonna get to put something that has you feel great. Put it away somewhere in the basement. No, no, let that be a key thing that would be like my little bundles of joy. That would be bundled joy to go and hang around on that way. Yeah, I remember what are still married and Yeah, four kids and three years time yeah, that’s gonna kill any bird for a while. I just wasn’t feeling great. I had like ballooned to twice my size that I am now and lost the weight but I still didn’t feel very good. So I went to this burlesque class and what the bow was learning how to strut and everything. And I remember coming back to my husband and kind of like, you know, doing the whole thing. He just looked me up and down and like turned around, turned away and I was okay, I was getting a little bit insecure. And I’ve gotten all dolled up for this. And you know, at that point, I wasn’t conscious enough to Hey, ask him, I was like, hey, that kind of hurt my feelings, what happened? Or even check in with him if he had the bandwidth for what I was proposing to do that? Yeah, I’m sure a lot of women can relate. It’s like, you go through the effort, but you haven’t actually told your partner, or the person that you’re meant to be doing this with that you want to have a certain experience. And they’re like, head deepen, I don’t know, like, Alex would be here, like head deep in some law stuff, you know, like finishing a client or something. And it’s like, oh, there she goes up trotting. You know, I

Kyera Kacey  20:49

think women I think with men, women feel like okay, if I walked by you, and I’m naked, or I walked by you, and I’m going to succeed outfit, or I’m pulling in saying you should just automatically get hard and want me. And that’s just not reality all the time. That doesn’t mean anything about you. But I think it’s, you know, men have a lot of pressure to perform. And if that pressure is there, or that expectation is there, and they might mentally not be available for that, like, if you’re not mentally available, physically being available, it’s gonna be very difficult. And I think, you know, inviting that just inviting creating an invitation as to whether or not you’re available for this is

Juliette Karaman  21:32

helpful is key. Definitely key otherwise, it’s going to be awkward. Yeah. And this is why I love flirting. I love like having that scrumptious Ness in your life and really asking your, your partner Hey, are you available? Is that can you kind of flirt with yourself in the mirror? Like,

Kyera Kacey  21:57

do you feel like foreplay is necessary?

Juliette Karaman  22:01

Yeah, definitely for me, you know, yes, it is. But I for plays we’ve me with myself first. And then I go to him, right. So if I’m not turned on, but I don’t wait for him to turn me on. I wait. I make sure that me myself. I feel turned on. I feel I feel good about myself. That means putting on some makeup, maybe just dancing, having fun.

Kyera Kacey  22:25

What do you feel? I know this is kind of a. Okay, what do you feel about women who have never had an orgasm, whether that’s through self pleasure, or that’s having sex because I know women that they’ve never experienced an orgasm or they’re uncomfortable with self pleasure. And I feel like I wouldn’t know. Life without experiencing an orgasm. Like that’s, that’s in so many women. I’ve talked to women. And they they’re like, yeah, just fake having an orgasm during sex. Like it’s a very common thing. It’s a supine feel like some women can’t have an orgasm. Like, what is that?

Juliette Karaman  23:03

It’s cool, right? Yeah, I have, I’ve had a lot of clients that actually haven’t been able to climax, right? Because orgasm could be that hole up and down that right, but the actual, like, the explosion, and then it features down into nothingness. So a lot of them, it’s your way into pleasure. So we’re kind of taught that it needs to be a certain way, and that it needs to look a certain way. And you might have people that are very energetic, and when you come into their energy field, they’re like, Oh, you’re massively sexual. And I’m like, my body has left. Like I’ve left the whole room, although my body’s still here. And then, like, this is what we talk about in erotic blueprints where it’s like, what is your what is your

Kyera Kacey  23:46

erotic blueprint?

Juliette Karaman  23:48

I’m a shapeshifter. So I like everything. Oh, it’s

Kyera Kacey  23:50

gonna see your shapeshifter. What do you think?

Juliette Karaman  23:53

I think you’re to with with probably a bit of cake.

Kyera Kacey  23:58

My and yeah, my primary is energetic. But Keith is in there as well. Yeah, for those listening. If you don’t know your erotic blueprint, you should Google this and go take the quiz. That’s fun. I found like knowing your erotic blueprint is first of all, it was like accurate. Pretty much I don’t know. I love it. I think everybody should know their erotic blueprint.

Juliette Karaman  24:18

I think it’s super cool. And then what’s even more fun is to do the AB game. So to like, feel like do I like this touch like the really hovering off the skin touch more than perhaps like sensual, like caressing my arm? Or then do I like the nail scratching a little bit more because the body never frigging lies intelligently Do

Kyera Kacey  24:42

you think there’s erotic blueprints that don’t that don’t work together? Like if you’re energetic and then one is what is it sexual? Where it’s like they just Yeah, I don’t I feel like I’ve been with a sexual and it just wasn’t. It wasn’t working. wasn’t great.

Juliette Karaman  24:59

This is the beauty right? When you all sudden realise you’re not really speaking each other’s language, like, someone who’s sexual always like grabs your boobs or pussy. And once they’re just

Kyera Kacey  25:10

like, oh, it’s raining, and I’m like, Whoa. And it’s like, Yo,

Juliette Karaman  25:13

I actually like to flirt across the room or like front across the world somehow and like, leave little voice messages and have the voice go up and down. And that really is the town. And then my partner, thank God, he’s also a shapeshifter. So we kind of play in that realm, and sometimes my sexual the major on he’s like, What the fuck, you know, normally, you’re very energetic. What happened to boundaries? And when they went out of the window they’re gone. No boundaries, like, come on. It’s like, whoa, okay. But then other times, he does that to me. I’m like, Whoa. Not sure. I like that. Yeah, this is really where you where you start playing in trust? How can you trust yourself? Where can you I was I was giving a presentation earlier today. It’s like, where do you even know what what do you know about your body? What? How do you like to be touched? And most people are like, I don’t know. I just don’t like the way that he does it. Or she does it. It’s like, well start. Yeah, start slow. Start putting your two fingers together your thumb and your middle and your pointer finger. And just really slowly rub them together. And notice if he can feel every single rich and your finger slow down enough to actually feel that it’s like, oh, on a scale of one to 10. Is that sensation? Yeah. Can I feel that? Yeah. It’s like no, do I increase it? Do I Do I feel it more? Do I feel less to highlight? So that would

Kyera Kacey  26:49

be like women are not necessarily spending enough time getting to know their body playing with their body? Exploring, really diving into self pleasure. And then that translates into the bedroom

Juliette Karaman  27:00

completely itself. Pleasure. I mean, does it Yeah, be sex? Can it be like what you’re doing? You’re dancing kind of be like going out for a hike? That is all what gives you pleasure? What actually turns you on? What? What is pleasing to you? What do you find joy? And the more that you do that the more that you hardwire your body? I’m your psyche. It’s like, Oh, I like smelling a certain smell before I dance. I like drawing myself about putting some pebbles in it. Whatever it is. And maybe you like the way that a leather belt smells or touches your arm you’re like, oh my god, I never thought or just like having a cold. This is a kombucha like having a cold kombucha can and putting it against your cheek? It’s like, whoa, that’s kind of surprising. I like that. Stay open. Yeah. No, we have the flyswatter. That’s always good. Swap people.

Kyera Kacey  27:56

Did you bring the flyswatter to loom? Because that looks familiar.

Juliette Karaman  27:59

I think I did. Yeah,

Kyera Kacey  28:01

I think I think Juliette, I think we need to do a retreat for women. And it needs to be all around self pleasure and sex and exploring their bodies. Like how fun would that be? Rather diving into their blueprint?

Juliette Karaman  28:17

It’s up my alley completely. I’ve been doing this for like,

Kyera Kacey  28:20

yeah, like really healing that fear of like being seen in partnership, healing any I see a lot of women to where they’re, like, you know, are speaking about affairs in the beginning of this where there’s that residual trauma leftover that they bring into this next relationship. And all of a sudden, it’s like, it’s not playful, it’s not fun. It’s not light, you’ve turned into parenting your man. And you’re like, I don’t know why the sex isn’t great. I’m like I do. I know what’s going on here. But I think that would be such a fun retreat, really teaching women how to be comfortable with their bodies, their sexuality, and really discovering like self pleasure in all the ways right self pleasure, insect self self pleasure and the way that they make money. This is why I say the more I play, the more money I make, you can interpret play in all different ways. Play could be self pleasure play could be taking a bath play could be you know, I don’t know hanging out with girlfriends, but like I find the more I’m in that frequency of playing and joy and fun, the more that I’m attracting that into my field. And I think when it comes to self pleasure to a lot of women are in relationships that they know are not aligned with their highest truth. I think if you’re in a relationship where you know that it’s very difficult to get off in a way that is fulfilling,

Juliette Karaman  29:34

searcher, right? And it’s also they’re often in that kind of relationship because they’re seeking something outside of themselves. And once you like you say you call it play I call it scrumptious. Does that make it good coach scrumptious. pneus feel fully your whatever, it’s all the same thing, right? It’s that frequency. Being in that frequency that you’re in so much delight, just by being Even with yourself that you laugh out loud in the middle of the day, and people are like, how is she laughing? Me myself, because I’m hilarious. And I’m having such a good time with myself that I can’t help but attract more of that. And then once you start doing this, then all of a sudden, it’s like, Oh, what is more than lightful in life than actually being in this frequency and then getting other woman and other people around you that you can play with? Yeah, that importance of it has to look a certain way. It really, really doesn’t. I love working with women on body shape. I was 148 kilos. So that is, what 350 pound what does that pounds? Well, but 350 pounds or something really massive? Yeah. So. So it’s

Kyera Kacey  30:51

never 150 pounds? You look amazing. Well, I mean, obviously, you don’t weigh that now. But

Juliette Karaman  30:57

I don’t weigh that. I had four kids in three years time, right. So I lost about half of that. And then there was still point that I was like, Yeah, I’m like beach will still right. I just felt like a beach. Well, breastfed for kids and the boobs were flopping over there. So it took me a long time to actually start loving, every single scar, every stretch mark. And mirror work is important. But being around other women that are older, are younger, that are confident that actually exude this, and bring this forward was so important.

Kyera Kacey  31:38

That embodiment of self love. You know, this is one of the reasons I remind people that I used to have an addiction to cutting because a lot of times they see my page or they see my Instagram, and they’re like, you know, they see me whether I’m wearing tassels and my boobs are out or whatever that is like I’m incredibly comfortable with my body. And I can only know this amount of self love, because I know the flip side of that. And there was a point in time where there was so much self hate that, you know, and then I expressed that through Kadeem. And so while people see certain things like, we see one thing, but we don’t always know the story that how to person get there. And so it’s like, for me, if you look, if you look at my stomach, you’ll see scars from where I used to cut, you’ll see the word hate above my belly button, because I cut that into my stomach when I was a teenager. And it’s like, yeah, I’m confident now. And I love myself now. But there was a flip side to that. And I think you know, women are so it’s so interesting how we really preach and we talk about women’s empowerment and self love, and you know, fixing another woman’s crown. And yet my experience when I moved into the online space was like women were not trying to fix my crown, they were trying to rip it off. Oh, and so I think this is something that if it’s so true, and it’s like if women can learn to first of all love themselves, you’re not going to be triggered by another woman. And you’re not going to judge her. But also, I think there needs to be the space to recognise that maybe where a woman is today was it was a journey for her to get there

Juliette Karaman  33:09

completely. And that’s it right? I think these days were filters and we can make ourselves look, I can make myself look like a 35 year old. It’s everything kids are like, Mommy, what do you do? But you know, we have so much fakeness out there, right? We don’t really know what’s real, what’s not real until you meet the person in real life. And that’s like, whoa, but we’ve all gone through our stuff. This is why you and I and others like us, we actually share our story. Yeah, it’s uncomfortable being out there saying yeah, you know what I got cheated on. And I went out and actually, you know, Rob, I did think conditional sex for a year, you know, had sex with a guy. Hey, you know, until it didn’t feel good anymore. It’s like, whoa, when I first heard about that, like, why would I do that? That’s crazy. And that’s like, oh, I have resistance everywhere that I have resistance. I look at it. Like I’m not free there. So let’s go there, sister. But

Kyera Kacey  34:11

But I think that’s also something for women to heal, right? Because like for me, I can talk about these things. And like there’s zero shame and there’s zero discomfort where I know, for a lot of women to share the side of themselves or whatever their story is in their past and the things that they’ve overcome. Oftentimes, there is like some discomfort around that. How is somebody going to perceive me? Will they judge me what? And it’s for me, it’s like, I’m so comfortable. I love myself so much that I don’t care what you think about me. And so if you hear something about my past, and you want to judge me for it, that’s 100% on you. But I also think that’s another layer of self healing and self pleasure that women get to experience that a lot of women are not experiencing and that’s it right

Juliette Karaman  34:49

by being in, in communion with people like us where we will trigger the shit out of you. And we will say things where they’re like, Oh my God, I’ve never want to go that Oh, okay. up, but it triggers something in you where you want to shine that light a little bit. And this is how I learned myself. Oh my god. I mean, so married to Muslim for kids that are Muslim. I walk around with red T shirts saying the Pacino’s my boys are like, heard of orgasmic meditation, this conscious sexuality thing. And they’re just like, do you still have that T shirt? I have a picture of it I can send to I’m not sure. I might have chucked it. I think I actually did. And the other one, what is it say or orgasm guide or something? So and they were just like, they were young, they were 1314 15. And the girls are slightly younger. And they’re like, Mommy, do you have to be so vocal, you know, you’re a little bit tone deaf, you’re worried you’re not understanding that it’s really us are hearing level. So I had to tone down a little bit of my loudness being who I am, just so that they didn’t feel uncomfortable, but not to the extent that I completely shut myself down. So that is oftentimes where we find ourselves where we’re like, okay, we want to be as loud as possible. But then the people around us are like, we’re not quite there yet.

Kyera Kacey  36:14

Yeah, and I think if I’m speaking, if I’m, if I’m being super transparent, and in fairness, I don’t have children. So I can’t say how I would actually navigate something like that, since I am not in it to navigate. But knowing what I know about myself now, and just with my family and the things that they see of me, or what I post online, I’m not going to turn anything down for anyone, I’m not going to do anything different to try to make somebody else comfortable. And I don’t think there’s a right or wrong, I think at the end of the day, it’s just choice and you chose for yourself. And I think to and allowing people that freedom to choose and not have one be right and the other be wrong is another way that women actually get to experience sisterhood on a deeper level. So beautiful, removing that judgement.

Juliette Karaman  37:03

Yeah, that’s just like, okay, cool. So she’s saying that I might not do it that way, totally to me. And that’s completely perfect. And I love that we’re doing this summit together with the channel sisters. And we’re everyone is kind of bringing their area of expertise. We’re all kind of like teasing each other out, like, oh, where can we help you? What is your area? Where do you need support? And this is just so beautiful to see, because the online space can be massively bitchy as in the mouse base, right?

Kyera Kacey  37:36

Yeah, yeah.

Juliette Karaman  37:38

Yeah. So why don’t you share with us where everyone can find you? How they can see more of your incredible mass your naked Christmas.

Kyera Kacey  37:51

I would say the easiest way is just go to my website Kira casey.com. You’ll find everything you need there between upcoming books and retreats and programmes. I’m headed to Ireland this time. Next month, I will be there. I’m headed to Toulouse in November, like there’s so much coming up. Rich money goals is coming out. I’m working like that. That book right now is my passion project and pouring everything into that. I’m really excited about it.

Juliette Karaman  38:15

Love it. That’s your third or fourth book.

Kyera Kacey  38:19

This will be the third.

Juliette Karaman  38:21

Exciting. Isn’t it? Cool?

Kyera Kacey  38:23

Yeah.

Juliette Karaman  38:24

Isn’t it cool. And I just love how you have a massive community of women. You’re in your Facebook group, pretty much every day you are on social media, you are just showing what it’s like to be a turned on woman. What it is to be a makeup coach what it is to be sharing yourself. Yeah,

Kyera Kacey  38:46

thank you. I love that.

Juliette Karaman  38:48

I love that there’s so many similarities because I remember when we both came into the channel, you lost your sister and I had lost my sister a few years back. And I was like, immediately like, Oh my God, I need to caretaker. And then it was like, No, she’s got herself. Yeah,

Kyera Kacey  39:07

forgot that. That was like, right when the channel started because I lost my sister two days before Christmas, and then boom, January and it was like 50 Sisters, you know? It was amazing.

Juliette Karaman  39:20

Yeah, and it was it’s been really beautiful to see your journey with grief and actually being with them being with your your nephew. And I just think if people can understand that you can show all parts of yourself while you’re grieving while you’re going through the loss of a death of a loved one, the loss of a job or loss of a relationship or loss of a pet. You can actually be the home just show it

Kyera Kacey  39:52

that’s the that’s the manifesting generator in me would probably say

Juliette Karaman  39:57

yeah, actually, I was gonna Yeah, Am I managing your money?

Kyera Kacey  40:02

I’m a 140.

Juliette Karaman  40:04

Okay, okay, so you like having all the information? And then the four is the connector or you get connected to people through other people. Yes. Yeah. I’m simplifying it by 100%

Kyera Kacey  40:20

I don’t know much about human design, but yes, that would be it.

Juliette Karaman  40:25

I love it. Love it. Love it. Love it. All right. I think we should definitely do a retreat together.

Kyera Kacey  40:31

Now, let’s start. We’re gonna get off of this call and we’re gonna start planning it. I’m already like, it’s already done. It’s already happening.

Juliette Karaman  40:41

There’s Yeah, I remember taking some mirrors and giving women mirrors to look at themselves and they’re like,

Kyera Kacey  40:47

oh I really want to do that like with women witnessing one another

Juliette Karaman  40:55

completely that’s good. Yeah, in a group. A group it’s doubly powerful.

Kyera Kacey  41:01

Okay, we’re gonna we’re gonna start planning this we’re gonna be in like communication today about this. This is happening.

Juliette Karaman  41:08

Sounds good my love. Anyway, thank you so much for hopping on. It’s been incredible. We’ve been honest, we’ve been raw we’ve been real pleased share this with whoever you think needs to hear this. Whoever has had some kind of grief some kind of affair in their lives, some kind of bit that they need to move through money pieces. I mean, Kira is incredible. manifester of everything. Please share. Much love