Episode 19 Unlocking the Secrets of Holistic Healing: From Pineal Power to Self-Love with Dr Tina Koopersmith

SUMMARY KEYWORDS:
body, heart rate variability, live, energy, heal, realise, human, love, healing, incredible, pleasure, meditation, child, studying, pineal gland, moved, life, good, bleeding, pregnant

SPEAKERS
Juliette Karaman, Tina Koopersmith

Juliette Karaman 00:00
All right. Hello guests. I am thrilled to have with me Tina Koopersmith. An incredible doctor who has been doing this work for years. So I’m going to actually let her introduce herself because she didn’t. I didn’t ask for a bio because she’s just a magnificent woman. And she’s really helping loads of couples conceive and get pleasure and actually just have the life say what? So Tina, Dr. Dr. Koop, take it away.

Tina Koopersmith 00:35
Thanks for inviting me onto your podcasts number one to the ad. And I’m so excited that you’re doing this podcast because this stuff is so important to get out to people. Yeah, I’m a physician. But as I show people, I’ve never been typical. And I’m not your typical physician. I’ve never been able to stay in play in one sandbox. And so I, for many years, I thought that was a problem. And now I’m embracing it, as that’s just who I am. And

Juliette Karaman 01:11
isn’t it just wonderful? I’m going to interrupt you for one second, because I’m sure so many of our listeners are going to be like, Ah, you are talking my language? Oh my goodness, right. We’ve been taught to do things a certain way. But it’s like, oh, we can play in lots of different sandboxes.

Tina Koopersmith 01:29
Yeah. And it’s, it’s incredible, right? So it’s it in the western medicine, medical field, right, you get taught one way to heal. And the way I’ve looked at it over the last few years, it’s like, Western medicine is the newest form of healing. That, you know, and it’s brilliant. And the science is brilliant. And like any little child, it throws off the parental knowledge, right? Like, No, I know best. And it threw out centuries, millennia of different ways of human healing, as if it had all the answers in science. And when I think about it, like science is about raising hypothesis, generating questions and then studying it. Well, where does the hypothesis come from? The question comes from your inner knowing. And, and so much of even the drugs is from nature, we’re always looking to mimic nature. And so we need to start studying nature. And we need to also recognise that older healing systems. You know, for years, they throughout the entire traditional Chinese medicine, World of healing, because it healed energetically. And we were meant, yeah. Right. Every cell in our body has an electric potential. We have EKGs, E, G, S, E, M G, is all of these things that we do now to measure the electricity that is running and guiding our body. And so maybe we should be healing energetically, as well as just physically and moving energy. And we No, no, we walk in a room full of happy people. They’re actually giving out we learn this now in a in a modality them training called Heart Math. But the electric field that comes out of the heart, if you are have a high heart rate variability, the beat to beat variability of your heart, if you graph it, is this beautiful sine wave. And it’s like the ocean in and out and in and out, in and out. And if you walk into a room full of happy people, you leave usually uplifted. If you listen to certain music, you leave uplifted. And if if you have a low heart rate variability, and you graph it, it’s cacophony. It’s not a symphony, it’s cacophony. And have you ever been in a good mood and you walk into a room full of people and they’re all complaining and miserable and, and all of a sudden, you’re like, where did my day like, ah, and it’s because you’re actually being entrained by their electromagnetic field. And ironically, I’m an obstetrician by training. We measure heart rate variability in the foetus all the time. When we, when we when we’re pregnant, they pop the the monitor on and get the foetal heart rate tracing. And if the variability is low, we got oh my god, the placenta is not working, get the baby out the baby stress. This is terrible. If their heart rate dips in certain ways, we’re like rural stress. And then the minute the baby’s born, we’ve stopped measuring heart rate variability. But we’re the same. And nobody’s looked at it as a vital sign of stress.And like, how cool if we could check in to your heart rate. And we can there’s monitors, your iPhone will check your heart rate variability

Juliette Karaman 05:46
completely, to devices that fit you and the aura ring and the fitbit. So I have it on all the time. And I’ll notice when I go into a state of deep relaxation of meditation that my heart rate variability is it’s like going in my brain waves go into these deep delta and into these deep states where I’m actually healing healing my body healing my psyche. And this is what we can do.

Tina Koopersmith 06:18
Yeah, we have you, but you’re for self.

Juliette Karaman 06:23
Completely. And you’re really looking at the science behind it, right? Because you are science based. Let’s let’s let’s face it, right, you’re you’re a doctor. A lot of your stuff is science based. So it’s not just the woowoo stuff right now. It’s like, No, we’re getting some facts

Tina Koopersmith 06:40
here. Yeah, and the thing too, we think, so I have this thing as a surgeon, right? Oh, I’m healing you. And it’s like, no, I’m actually re traumatising your body, removing whatever needs to be removed, fixing whatever needs to be removed, but your physical body has to do the healing around that.

Juliette Karaman 07:03
Beautiful.

Tina Koopersmith 07:04
And, you know, I learned that way back in, you know, it’s now retrospective. But when I was learning how to repair tubes, people had had their tubes tied, and they wanted to get pregnant. They were like, Oops, I made a mistake. I really want more kids. And we didn’t really have good IVF wasn’t great at the time. So we would microscopically repair the tubes. My very first case, it took four hours. I was, you know, I’m working with this tiny suture and looking through the microscope, and I’m doing it with a professor but you know, sweating bullets ate four hours of surgery using this Aido microscopic suture, trying my heart out. You know, putting all my energy in my life force was into this surgery. And I was convinced it was horrific because it took forever and I was a novice. And then after, you know, four months of doing three surgeries a week or six surgeries a week, whatever, by the end, you know, I did a case it took an hour, boom, boom, boom. Fast forward, that first patient got pregnant within three months. And the case that was like super easy, easy peasy, Baba, bah, her tubes were still blocked. I did the same surgery. I’m always putting my life force into my surgery. But her human being hard to heal.

Juliette Karaman 08:40
And that’s something we forget, we put so much pressure to heal or to have a certain goal or to have something in a timeframe. And what if instead of a goal, you can say it’s a plan. This is like a plan that I’m making for healing. It doesn’t have to be within a year or within two years. But what about my my goal? My plan is you don’t you don’t hear wedding goal setters, right. But you hear about wedding planners, because it just feels a little bit energetically feels a bit better. But it’s like we don’t have to always have a timeframe in mind. It’s like, I know what you and I bring to the world is really important. And over my lifetime, this is what I want to bring to the world. And I’m not putting a timeframe on it. I’m not saying by December 23 2023 I need to have 2,300,000 downloads of of my podcasts. I don’t have an X amount of money and Mary, Alex etc. That is just putting so much pressure on ourselves. because while we are constantly moving, constantly evolving, so it’s like we don’t need that pressure, because that is what creates disease in the body again,right?

Tina Koopersmith 10:10
Yeah. So I it’s so funny because, you know, I’ve talked to you about, I think, what I came to learn through my studies was, you know, that, to me were four bodies in one energy body, the, the physical body, the emotional heart, body, and then this spirit body, this energy body, which is actually, we’re like a cell phone tower, always connecting energetically to everything around us. And we need to heal all four, right? And we can’t just focus on one. And I have this need to, like, stand at the top of a mountain top and scream this to the world, like, folks, come on, we have to treat, you can’t just physically treat the human, you have to treat their emotions and their emotions, maybe why they’re sick, because they’re energetic than when I take a social history, oh, my god, six months, a year after somebody has something happened to them. That’s when the disease manifests physically, right. And I see the interconnection of all of it. And I just like, we need to do integrative medicine, and realise that there’s so many different ways to heal. And when I let go of my ego, and said, All right, this is bigger than me. And I may, I have to do my part in teaching it. But it may or may not finish even in my life. Like I don’t know, when humans will actually catch on. I feel the urgency only because I think if we don’t learn this stuff, we as humans may not be around to learn it anymore. Because we’re doing so much destruction to ourselves in the planet that Mother Earth may offer us, or AI may offer us because we don’t love each other enough. So AI will learn not to love us. But rather to compete with us, but But it’s bigger than me. And it took so much of the pressure off, you know,

Juliette Karaman 12:30
completely. And I love that you’re talking about the four bodies. I mean, when I study stuff, they also say the soul body. So there’s actually a fifth body and you know, different different studies show different things. And it’s really when you can tap into that energetic field and to the field of all possibilities, the quantum field. That is how often I will heal people, I won’t heal them on their physical body. I won’t. I mean, I’ll do spinal attunement, but I’ll check what’s happening in their physical body. But then I’ll feel where it is. Oh, is it in a soul body is it in their emotional body, and most of the time it is in their emotional body. And they can play because it is like playing, playing a violin, right? Like playing things and then all of a sudden the wave starts to appear again in the spine. And stuck, energy gets released and gets moved through. Because so often we forget that emotions are actually energy in motion. Right? Yeah, that’s what they are.

Tina Koopersmith 13:33
Absolutely. How can we not we’ve been taught to just suppress them and repress them. Especially Well, you know, sugar and spice and everything nice. But that doesn’t make a whole human. Because you have to be a whole human. You have to have the good and the bad one. One of my friends said. I was talking about that. dehumanise dehumanisation in a sense of animals, right if we don’t treat them with respect, that’s the first step towards dehumanising humans because when you separate animals from humans, it allows us to separate human from human. And as my son said, Mom, and what about plants? Maybe they have consciousness too. And again, it’s the separation. And what one of my friends said, which I loved is the minute we separate a child and teach them to be a good child. We’re separating them from their wholeness, because in all good is a little bit of bad and there’s all there’s lots of naughty in that little child. And that’s human. And we’re to be, oh, we’re good and bad and art where we have our superpowers and our shadows. And it’s only when we except All of us that we realise, you know, like what happened to you instead of what’s wrong with you? Right? Because underneath everyone who hasn’t behaviour that is less than desirable, if you will. It’s just a child that’s

Juliette Karaman 15:20
completely. And that’s so important to tap into. We have so many parts, and we’re the adult of whatever I’m 55. Now, and there’s lots of little Juliette’s and there are lots of naughty Juliette. So lots of Juliette’s that actually got hurt, and they at times want to drive the bus and it’s like, Yo, that’s not safe, let’s not do that, yes, you can have your you can, you can talk to me, and I can make time for you. But you know, at times, it’s just like, she just wants to have a tantrum and throw herself on the floor. And it’s, and that little one will continue to try and pop up until I actually listen to her and just give her some some time and give her some airspace.

Tina Koopersmith 16:09
Yeah, and that’s, you know, the power of focusing in on what we’re feeling. And accepting the feelings, but then not living, I actually just reviewed a post that I had, you know, how Facebook shows you what you posted last year, or the year before. And I guess, on August 7, I like to post things. And we’re all addicted to our own behaviours. Right, we all have to have to conserve energy in our brain. We, it’s so critical to have behaviours that help us do things without extra brain energy. But we can have behaviours that aren’t necessarily in our best interest, but their habits of behaving. And when we start to get a little more mindful, through taking that step back through that observation, through that mindfulness, do that meditation. Oh, yeah, that’s my five year old self. That’s my 12 year old self. That’s my, that behaviour is not serving me anymore. There was nothing wrong with her. But if I want to live a more peaceful life, where my adrenal gland is not having sparks of stress, 24/7, right. I need to behave differently when I have women and they’re desperate to get pregnant. And I’m like, girlfriend, we’ve just done studies, and it’s showing me your mitochondria is not working? Well, it’s showing me you don’t have antioxidants in your body. Don’t you think? Egg and the embryo in the uterus, they need this energy to make a beautiful new baby. So what can we do? Let’s change your diet, let’s move your body let’s de stress like, it’s all relate. Right? If your microbiome isn’t happy and healthy, those are your children living in you. Those are your industry with all these critters in you. And if you’re not feeding them, then they have a different life force than you. They don’t really want to keep you healthy. Because they want to feed themselves. So they become your little rebellious, you know, and they stopped doing what you want to do. You’re not having a symbiotic life goal. And yet, but I don’t want to eat my vegetables, baloney. And those vegetables are there to help all the cells in your body work well. And so you can continue to Rabatt like, infertility. I joke is a gift from the universe, telling you your body’s not working perfectly.

Juliette Karaman 19:22
Isn’t it incredible? I love that infertility is a gift from the universe, saying that your body isn’t working perfectly. I have this incredible obstetrician. In Geneva, we moved from Paris to Geneva and I didn’t know a soul but I started getting really I was pregnant. I started getting really bad cramps. So this was the obstetrician of a friend of mine. She sent me there and he knew and I miscarried. And he said, Listen, it’s your body’s way of telling you that that baby was not in the perfect state. So you know, there was so much wisdom in that I just felt, you know, of course, I was sad, but part of me was just like, Oh, okay. So that’s my, that’s the beauty of it happening for me instead of to me. So this is why what I love what you say,

Tina Koopersmith 20:15
well, and the body is always trying to get back to equilibrium. And back to pleasure. The body does not want to live in a stressed out adrenal state, it drains it of all its energy. And so the body functions can’t work. And, you know, I have patients, well, my friend drinks and my friend does this and my friend. And yes, and we all have different genes, which means we have different ability to detox things. And we live in a society now full of chemicals, which we can’t get rid of easily. And so some of us are more prone to, like, your friend can live on pizza and beer and have a baby, and you can’t. And maybe that’s because she has genetics that are able to cope better, maybe she doesn’t have as stressful of a job. Maybe her relationship with her partner doesn’t keep her on edge made, like we don’t know, all the other parts that are. Right. And what I I met, you know, I used to eat well, okay, so how can we get back there, right? And playing with? How would it? How can you see the pleasure? Like I’m not trying to force you to live your life in any one way. But some of us actually get pleasure in playing the victim mode. And we’d rather not change our behaviours because

Juliette Karaman 22:01
we get pleasure or we get validation somehow. Well, we talked about pleasure yesterday, I know it was I had more on you know, her and then and Dion, about the pleasure of prescription so really digging into what is pleasure, something that is pleasing to you. Something that feels good. Do you get validation? Is that pleasure? Maybe for some people? Well,

Tina Koopersmith 22:28
I think for some people, it’s, it is it’s an unknown, there’s a book called existential King, right? And it’s until you can figure out that mean, it’s the king because it’s the it’s the hose that’s kinked like, I can’t want to be a pig Tom, what you get when you get out of being the victim, you get to not have to change your behaviour. And it’s really hard to change behaviour. Because their habits and behaviour for reason we’ve been doing them for a long time.

Juliette Karaman 23:05
And they sink in where we’re not always aware of it. And this is why I’m saying awareness is really your first step towards pretty properly loving yourself to self love. When you don’t have to change things right away. But you’ll be like, Oh, hello. Hello behaviour. I’m very good. I’m a little bit for you. Oh, it’s that same rock again. I’m still bumping up against it. Oh, humour.

Tina Koopersmith 23:31
Yeah, and I mean, perfectionism, workaholism, like those are my addictions, right? My validation of I’m not lovable unless I’m achieving. Right, I was raised on achievement, and realised and achievement in my family was I had to use my brain. Right? Not be creative and be an artist. Or I remember wanting to be an interior designer. When I was really little, I used to rearrange the furniture in my house all the time. And I was eight years old, like literally pushing dressers around and moving my bed. I was teeny tiny. But I was always trying to design my room because it was the smallest in the house and I wanted it to feel bigger. Because I felt small in my house, right? I was the youngest by a lot and I never felt good enough. Never felt smart enough. Never felt big enough. So those are all the stories in my head, right? And like, my family was like, interior design. Like you’re smarter than that. Like he’s walking you really successful doing interior design. It’s amazing creative outlet, like, why did they judge

Juliette Karaman 24:53
that? But isn’t it interesting? It’s their judgement. And then you took that on? It’s like Oh my god, if I do that, and I might get enough in their eyes, and it’s important for me to feel good enough in their eyes, and I’m just dialling it all the way back for people to kind of understand where they may have had heard a statement like this in their life like, oh my god, you wouldn’t do that. Yeah, but is for sissies, or that is only dumb people do that, or only rich people do that. Yeah, it’s like, you start all of a sudden looking through a lens at your life. And you’re like, Whoa, are all these thoughts? Or all these beliefs that I have? Are they actually mine? Or are they what society has imprinted on me? Because don’t forget until the age of two, we are like little sponges. We live our life in different brainwaves where we’re just picking up all the information, we don’t really differentiate between what’s ours, what is our parents what’s around us.

Tina Koopersmith 26:04
And ironically, we’re always mirroring neurons comply, we learn. And the funny part when I realised everything on the left brain is mirrored on the right brain. Except for the pineal gland, it has no mirror. The pineal gland is how I mirror you. It’s how I mirror nature. It’s, it’s how I connect to the world and the Dalai Lama, right? They put their heads together. That’s how they connect. And it’s that mirroring and when you come in my office as a physician, right? How many people have heard you have six months to live in their grandfather on six months in a day dies? Right? Like? How did that position know he had six months to live, there’s no book that says love. And yet the power of our brain to take in and mirror and give the truth to what someone said, because you’re mirroring that neuron. And so you know, the placebo effect, right is real. But the no SIBO effect is even more powerful. If you tell someone, it’s not gonna work. It’s not gonna work, whether you can or you can’t, you’re right, depending on what you say and do. And so I believe, don’t reach their potential. Because someone told them they can’t.

Juliette Karaman 27:35
And that’s it. The first part is really just strip that back as like, is that really true? Am I unlovable? Am I unworthy? Because it’s always three or four things that that are the baseline of what we’re suffering with? And then I love what you’re talking about the the forehead? Yeah, I know. And a lot of Polynesian and my, my, my partner is the Kiwis from from New Zealand. The Maori is they do the thing. It’s called the Tonga, where they touch foreheads. And really, that is their greeting. Wow. But also, this is where I love, like, I’ve been doing a lot of meditation. And you and I have been on lots of different retreats together lots of different masterminds together, really delving deep into this work. So Joe Dispenza. Yeah, I know that you’re working with HeartMath. So it’s a lot of the same information. He teaches about the pineal gland, and that when between one o’clock and four o’clock in the morning, that’s when it’s most active. Right, and that’s when it produces melatonin. And melatonin is also the bit that has you kind of like, projected to the future where you can then also pull that future to you. So every so often, I get up with my little group in the UK at four o’clock, and we do a four hour meditation at four o’clock in the morning, and I put my little eye masks on, and this morning, it was five o’clock, but it’s still you know, still borderline where we’re still that melatonin is still there and we haven’t quite gotten the light into our eyes. So I go downstairs because otherwise if I’m on my bed, I’ll just fall asleep right because the body is the habits we did kind of like habitual bed, fall asleep. I tried now naked, put my little eye mask on. cover myself and then one of the dogs or dogs come in comes in nudges me while I’m like, deep in space and no thoughts and nothing. I’m like, Oh, come on baby. And she nudges me again and then she walks up to the the French doors and scratches in Oh my god. Get my little eye mask off. Put her back. Like okay, I’ll go back so I go back straight into that have like little notes. And then it’s like, you know, open up the cover. So I’m opening up the cover and she’s planting herself right in there. Because every time that I’m deep in meditation, the dogs come and like, want to be on me want to be in that place? And when just notes, thoughts, nothing. And it’s everything can feel everything can sense that energy. And we just tend to forget that we’re energetic beings.

Tina Koopersmith 30:33
Yeah, so it’s funny that you should say that because the, when when you said it, I just realised like, in medical school, right, so here, we’re learning about the whole body, right? The pineal gland. I don’t even know if it’s like a page on a book. It’s like, we don’t know what this does. We’re not taught about the pineal gland. Because it didn’t fit in the model. And when I think about how medicine Western medicine came to us, it came to us from the anatomists who were finally allowed to study cadavers, right? They were, that was their Kiki rebellion, because they were stealing them from graveyards and studying cadavers, and learning about the body and all this stuff. And they advanced so much science, right? But they were studying dead bodies. The energy was not there. The connection of how everything interconnects with God, and this pineal gland is all about connection to the universe. And they don’t see that. It’s just there. Right? So they couldn’t explain it. So they just left it out.

Juliette Karaman 31:53
Yeah, right. It’s interesting, right.

Tina Koopersmith 31:57
And now we’re learning looking at all the benefits from meditation on the body’s vital signs, and how we go through life and do life and but they couldn’t explain it. So they just ignored it. And it’s like a, I feel like Western medicine was this child. And then it was a teenager, as it got in when it was really little. It was in the 1817 1800s. And it was competing with all the other forms of healing, there was homoeopathy, apathy is the opposite the natural apathy, chiropractic, herbal medicine midwives, like it was, there was a monopoly, a millions of different ways to heal, and you chose where to go. And then in the early 1900s, literally one guy went around, he was paid for by the Carnegie Foundation. And he went to all the medical schools and said, these are the only scientific ones. So we’re going to label them medical doctors and licenced them, attach them to universities, so that we don’t have snake oil salesmen and everybody else was labelled alternative and made less. Whereas way back when it was cool, and you chose did you go to the herbalist or did you go to the doctor, you know, or did you go to the surgeon to fix a broken bone? And then now we’re finally teenagers, as a as a science and we’re like, well, maybe beyond we’re like, in our 20s, right, because the teenager rejected everything. And now we’re like, oh, meditation. We can see some of the benefits scientifically, oh, even manifestation. There’s actually science to the quantum field and, and pulling it in. And so it’s like, we just didn’t have the science to explain these other things, but they always worked and Marcus Welby in the 50s. When you think about when doctors got when they first got to most prominence in a sense, when they actually sat and listened to the patient. They didn’t have a whole lot of tools to heal. But we knew their history. It was a family practice, Doc, and he knew you from birth till now and he put it together and you listen. And as you know, yeah, contact is the carrier wave of transformation. And if you listen to somebody, and you validate their story, but perhaps reflect it back, how can how else can you see your story? Complete completely, right? Yes,

Juliette Karaman 34:53
I love what you’re saying here.

Tina Koopersmith 34:56
Narrative Medicine right journaling, writing. I had a woman men who had so many psychological illnesses, she was on so many medications. When I first met her for years, very tragic death happened in her life. And she started writing a memoir about her experience with this human came in to me that year. And it was like after 20 years of knowing this human, she was another person. She had gotten off her psych meds, she had these intense conversations with me. She had reanalyzed her whole life after this tragedy of her ex husband, and it was just like, oh my god, two different humans in the same physical body. Two different brains.

Juliette Karaman 35:55
Isn’t that incredible? How we re wire our brain, how we can recondition our body. And actually, I mean, I have been a doctor did Spencer’s retreats where people that have gone in, in a wheelchair, and actually a lot of things wrong, have gone out, walking again, okay, slowly, but they’re on crutches on sometimes even without crutches without walking sticks, and they’re walking again. I have seen people where they’ve gone in with a big tumour. And after a few days, it is gone. Because they are in that field, they are actually healing themselves. They are thinking it they are believing it they’re pulling those emotions to that their body is doesn’t realise their subconscious doesn’t realise what is real, quote, quote or not real. And they are actually creating a new body, new cells are coming in whatever breath they’re bringing in new healthy cells. And this is just so incredible, isn’t it?

Tina Koopersmith 37:05
Oh, it’s fascinating. There’s a book called cured by Jeremy rediger. And he profiles these people who found ways to heal themselves outside of standard medical than the one story which was just crazy. A man went in, and he had a CAT scan, which showed a cancer. And one week later, one week later, the surgeon ordered an MRI to to help design how they were going to do surgery. Now, MRI is not radiation. MRI is making all your cells the hydrogen ions. It’s a big magnet, right? So it’s an energy right? That’s huge. It changes your energy, right? So he’s in the MRI machine, and he has his massive hallucination. He literally hallucinated that water was leaking up and he was trapped. Like, he just described this incredible hallucination, which obviously didn’t happen. He wasn’t drowning in water in the MRI machine. The MRI one week after the CAT scan couldn’t find the tumour was gone. Like, it’s magic. But what it is, is its energy realigning right? It’s things complete the the body really wants to energetically and physically get back to oneness and health. It’s always trying to get back to equilibrium. And you know, what you eat affects it, what you feel affects it, your thoughts affect it, because all of those things move energy in different way, shape, or form. And when you change the energetic potential across cells, they eject things out of their body and they do things up in their cells that they need. And going into nature and healing how many people go out and heal by being at one and at peace with the universe and earth? How many people get a diagnosis of cancer and start to fully live? Because they realise their time is limited perhaps so they actually live and their life is more full. And they may live longer. They may not but they’re living every year.

Juliette Karaman 39:45
It’s sort of funny, a friend of mine, a friend of mine, her father in law was diagnosed with cancer this year. And so they started planning some beautiful things together. They had Beautiful trip together. Swan dolphins had had gorgeous time together. Her partner spent a lot of time with the Father. And a few weeks ago, goes to the doctor and they they take his Bloods and they see everything they’re like. Okay, well, let’s, this is a bit odd. Where did it go? So the father in law calls up and saying, you know, all those great holidays that we’ve had, and all those memories that we’ve been making, but apparently, I’m sticking around a bit longer. So I hope you don’t mind that we’ve been doing all these, we’d be making these incredible memories. Yeah, and the interesting of like, Thank God that it didn’t stick around. And, and I know that my sister when when she got ovarian cancer was starting to look at this. And but her, she didn’t make it on time that she could actually heal herself. Yeah. Which is a real pity, because now I’m just seeing, Oh, my God, if I had known these things a little bit before, I could have maybe steered her a bit more, but at the same time, because that happened, I really got into this. And I’m kind of seeing how I can help others open their mind a little bit and see, it’s like, oh, there is so much more available to us. We don’t have to stick to being a pill popper and getting just getting

Tina Koopersmith 41:28
on. When you think about it on a grander scale, right? How many humans did she save through you? Because your grief led you on this journey, which allowed you to heal so many other people, I had an incredible experience with a woman who, you know, I’ve done lots of egg retrievals. And when we take eggs out of the body for in vitro, we put a needle, basically your egg grows in a follicle and I equate it to it’s like a bunch of water balloons on your ovary, right? And you’re putting a needle in each of those to get the to get the fluid and find the egg. And the fact that more people don’t actually have problems bleeding is pretty miraculous the body can. No you’re popping balloons, right? And the body’s hemostatic mechanisms. Stop the bleeding. While this one woman was freezing her eggs just for storage, fertility preservation. And the case went totally fine. She went home and a few hours later, her mom’s like, She just fainted the bathroom floor like oh my god, bring them in, comes in. I’m like, she had gotten better. She looked fine. And then she like, was about to think again. And I’m like, you’re going to the hospital next door. The ER doc decided to transfused her with clotting factors and blood. And I didn’t even have privileges at that hospital. I got emergency privileges. I took her to the operating room. I go in now she already had transfusions. There was nothing bleeding. So there was blood in her belly. But there was nothing for me to do. When I went to surgery. She had stopped bleeding all on her own once we gave her a transfusion. I never found like, why she bled She probably just used up her clotting factors and all these little mini needle sticks had for her in her case and made her anyway that night. She’s on the phone with her, her cousins in nursing Florida. And she tells the or maybe that afternoon she tells her cousin what happened to her. And that night, no other night. They brought on like a one year old or a tiny little infant or teeny tot to the emergency room. And the kids blood count was dropping, and they couldn’t find a source of bleeding. And this nurse goes this happened to my cousin today just transferred, just transferred.

Tina Koopersmith 44:30
And that kid was saying they never found where the kid was leading prom. Anyway, and my patient was like I save this tub like this happened to me so I could save this child’s life was restoring.

Juliette Karaman 44:50
And isn’t it beautiful? How the how the ripple effects really works right? Because one thing happens to us and We somehow alchemize it or with the help of a whole team of our guides of the people here on this earth, whatever, that ripples out into the universe. Someone else picks up that information, uses it for whatever it needs to be done. In this case, the tiny little baby gets moved, and then that ripples forth. Again, it is just incredible. This today, I was just thinking about this ripple effect and how it actually works. It’s mind blowing.

Tina Koopersmith 45:33
Yeah, no, it’s crazy. Crazy. And

Juliette Karaman 45:38
yeah. Beautiful, beautiful. We are going to wrap it up my love because we’ve been going for a long time. This is probably my longest podcast. My doctor, Dr. Koop, tell us how people can get in touch with you. Do you have a programme? Do you have a book? Do you have a website? How can people they’re like, Oh, wow.

Tina Koopersmith 46:06
So I, my website right now is women’s reproduction.com. And I am starting actually in two weeks, I will have a free masterclass on how Pleasure, pleasure and play is the portal to your pregnancy and trying to help people recognise that play and pleasure and relaxing that nervous system is really the portal to your best life. And it doesn’t mean you can’t go to work, but you have to play at work. And you have to see work as play. And so it’s a fertility masterclass. And I will have follow up deeper dives into really how to live your best life to maximise your wellness, in fertility and beyond. And children’s hearts that I push that again for my graduates after they’re pregnant to give their children who am I and what am I and it’s really teaching children and their parents that we are air fire, water and earth and we’re all the same and all different all at the same time. And that your child you know it my child might be energetic, more into their physical body more into their mental body more into their heart body and how can we understand ourselves and our children? So who am I what am I they’re both on Amazon or Barnes and Noble. And come play with me in my workshops.

Juliette Karaman 47:52
I love it. This will all go into the show notes. So all if you have a look in the show notes. This is how you can find Dr. Tina Cooper Smith. Thank you so much for being on here. Please, please you know keep doing what you’re doing. It is just incredible.

Tina Koopersmith 48:14
Thank you so much Miss scrumptious. You always make me feel totally full.

Juliette Karaman 48:22
I love it. Please listeners. If you have loved this send this podcast to some of your friends some of the people that need this because this is how we make that ripple effect. Much love and see you next time.